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    i can barely read that comment (it's really all over the place with grammar issues and such), but from what i can tell, it seems that you feel like i made sort of a "pay-to-win" comment...

    granted, SSR are what you should aim towards getting, but there's tons of SR weapons carrying assault that can fill the gap... a few of which are grindable (mainly the disaster/catastrophe ones). even events hand them out and they aren't hard to get...

    as for SSR kami, yes they're powerful... some can snap the game in half... but there's still strong SR like Triton, Oberon, Nyarlathotep, and Atalanta. more so, some R characters like Zephyrus, Caspiel, and Konohana are very good... (in fact, if you get her debuffs to stick, Fire Mephistopheles is BEYOND SR level). Don't underestimate your weaker rarities, quite a few can be better than you give credit for (it's why my wind team tends to use ithaqua if i do need some heals, but mainly wind ramiel who is ABSURDLY good at buffing and burst buildup).

    it still traces back to using what you got. if you feel you can keep your damage going with Sol being off-element for the team, then fine. but if i read your comment right, your damage isn't too great to begin with so you really shouldn't compromise it more.

    simply put, i just gave some suggestions. You can take it at face value, dispute it, whatever you want. But at the end of the day, if you aren't clearing content, you're doing something wrong or you just aren't strong enough. besides, i assumed you do have at least some key SSR given 3 miracle tickets have been out thus far (one right now in fact), and rerolling is a thing (in fact, now is a VERY good time to reroll if you aren't too far into the game)
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    i can barely read that comment (it's really all over the place with grammar issues and such), but from what i can tell, it seems that you feel like i made sort of a "pay-to-win" comment...

    granted, SSR are what you should aim towards getting, but there's tons of SR weapons carrying assault that can fill the gap... a few of which are grindable (mainly the disaster/catastrophe ones). even events hand them out and they aren't hard to get...

    as for SSR kami, yes they're powerful... some can snap the game in half... but there's still strong SR like Triton, Oberon, Nyarlathotep, and Atalanta. more so, some R characters like Zephyrus, Caspiel, and Konohana are very good... (in fact, if you get her debuffs to stick, Fire Mephistopheles is BEYOND SR level). Don't underestimate your weaker rarities, quite a few can be better than you give credit for (it's why my wind team tends to use ithaqua if i do need some heals, but mainly wind ramiel who is ABSURDLY good at buffing and burst buildup).

    it still traces back to using what you got. if you feel you can keep your damage going with Sol being off-element for the team, then fine. but if i read your comment right, your damage isn't too great to begin with so you really shouldn't compromise it more.

    simply put, i just gave some suggestions. You can take it at face value, dispute it, whatever you want. But at the end of the day, if you aren't clearing content, you're doing something wrong or you just aren't strong enough. besides, i assumed you do have at least some key SSR given 3 miracle tickets have been out thus far (one right now in fact), and rerolling is a thing (in fact, now is a VERY good time to reroll if you aren't too far into the game)
    Thanks for your reply and advices. I understand, that my grammar is not as good as i wish because english is not my native language, but I'll do my best. About strong SR - I know it, for example my water team has 0 ssr - Belphy, Triton, Atalanta, Nike, but it still had nice performance on fire raid with only 60+ assault and Tiamat as eydo.
    Unfortunately I don't have wind Rami, I definitely want to use her instead of Maeve, she is very strong. Oberon is not needed - I have Hastur. Zephyrus is nice, my old setup was Hastur,Iblis,Zephyrus,Itaqua, but after i've got Sol - i tried Maeve (with 5 bows in grid)+ Sol instead of Zephyrus+Itaqua. Damage loss is insignificant (Maeve deals much more damage then Itaqua+ has save ability, Zephyrus is heal type R ). Alternative is Hastur, Maeve, Iblis, Itaqua - maximum aviable damage, but less surviability. Caspiel is just a filler for R challenges, she is not so good from my POV. Konohana is great, but a) my fire weapons grid is complete garbage b) i have her SSR version AKA Amaterasu. But anyway, almost every new SSR hime to replace SR/R is a major boost to your team.
    Use SR assault weapons - it's a nice advice, I already do so. Only my fire and dark teams must use a lot off-element weapons as placeholders.

    Content that i can't clear with current wind team - non-thunder AQ4, fire AQ3, some rognarok advents may be failed sometimes if things go bad (not Kuyuki or Ixion, but harder ones). Ultimate disaster raids/raid events are not doable solo, even thunder ones, in near future - I guess that I couldn't complete GO with no new SSR hime.

    Rerolling... i tried it, but 700+ rerolls, only 1 PTW eydo, and it's a weakest among them - Kirin and about 5 accs with 2 same element himes (best one is Michael,Eros,Belphy + Ctulhu in next jewel pull). My main acc is much stronger than any of theese rerolls.
    Miracle ticket- after Nutaku closed Mononofu and Aigis, i don't want to spend 50 bucks at all, so i'll be FTP.
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    honestly, if you have cronus, she's a better one to use compared to maeve, even if she's got the same frame atk down as iblis and cybele (nearly every one is better than maeve...) if you rolled heimdallr, she can at least buff your team (she's from the raid kami tickets).

    in fact, others that can be usable is Freya (single target, but a decent buff effect and heal), krampus (rage nuker, which honestly has more use than intercept with self heal), Principality (only for ability damage and her barrier), Caspiel (her debuff is stackable, so it takes time but her def buff is a 20% def buff like andromeda's), and wind orpheaus (mini version of wind ramiel).

    to be honest, your wind team isn't looking too great and Maeve is sadly one of the worst SR for them. even if you have conflictions with debuffs, kami like cronus and cybele are still better options than her too.

    as for rerolling, it can indeed take a VERY long time. but if you're a free player, it's still your best option if you feel like things aren't working out for you even after getting quite a bit of stuff from events and such. but you have to do rerolls with your best account for the best options since you don't want wasted grinding effort if your best account does end up working out.

    and the miracle ticket... well, i've come across a few people that also said they won't get it. to each their own, but it really is the best thing to ever buy in this game, as it pretty much hands you a strong SSR (or in the case of eidolons, a kaiser dragoon). enough luck can still bypass this though so i'd farm every ticket and magic jewel you see. And it goes without saying to just drain the gem gacha for every single kami you can get in there.... (eventually should happen if you're farming for skill levels on weapons)

    lastly, about GO in the future, if you can't last long in the catastrophe fights, you probably shouldn't try GO (soloing catastrophe fights means GO shouldn't be too hard). even then, if you beef up your grid enough, even R characters can clear it. the bulk of your power does indeed come from the grid (skill level 20 weapons are truly powerful), so grab every single worthwhile SSR event weapon and Eidolon you think is worth it. Come the time when Tower hits, you'll need as many elements, kami (especially this), and eidolons as you can get.

    This game is designed to make you take your time to do so and plan things out. you might have better options than you think
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  4. #24
    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    honestly, if you have cronus, she's a better one to use compared to maeve, even if she's got the same frame atk down as iblis and cybele (nearly every one is better than maeve...) if you rolled heimdallr, she can at least buff your team (she's from the raid kami tickets).

    in fact, others that can be usable is Freya (single target, but a decent buff effect and heal), krampus (rage nuker, which honestly has more use than intercept with self heal), Principality (only for ability damage and her barrier), Caspiel (her debuff is stackable, so it takes time but her def buff is a 20% def buff like andromeda's), and wind orpheaus (mini version of wind ramiel).

    to be honest, your wind team isn't looking too great and Maeve is sadly one of the worst SR for them. even if you have conflictions with debuffs, kami like cronus and cybele are still better options than her too.

    as for rerolling, it can indeed take a VERY long time. but if you're a free player, it's still your best option if you feel like things aren't working out for you even after getting quite a bit of stuff from events and such. but you have to do rerolls with your best account for the best options since you don't want wasted grinding effort if your best account does end up working out.

    This game is designed to make you take your time to do so and plan things out. you might have better options than you think
    I've got Chronus from the first gacha pull, i used her a lot and must say, that she is not so better then Maeve. Yes, she has b-frame attack debuff with very-very bad prock chance (less then 30% even with VoF) who is anyway overriden by Iblis/Cybele, attack b-frame selfbuff and strong enough nuke (as for SR quality)with 3 turn cd 2 charges stackable selfbuff (but nuke is 5t cd so we want to wait 1 more turn to get maximum performance or lose damage, it's like with Sol - 6t heal and 7t heal buff) and that's all. Maeve has 2 weaker nukes (1 with self-heal) with total damage like Chronos's one and reflect self buff (it helps with overdrives) + more hp. And one more - Maeve is bow-type so she has passive boost from disaster/Kuyuki bows, like Belphy gets bonus from water disaster glavies, while Chronos is glavie-type, and i can't see any event/raid wind glavies. Chronos is a glass cannon, while Maeve is more tanky, but i guess that they are on about the same power level. Krampus/heimdallr are nice, but from 4 raid tickets i've got only Pale rider + 3 duplicate weapons. Freya is nice too, but i have only Iblis, Chronos and Itaqua from gacha. For Principality i need at least one more heavy nuking hime, just single Hastur is not enough for her ability buff, but i will give her a chance, maybe she is not that terrible as i think. I can see only 1 setup with her - Mordred (trial), Hastur, Chronos, Iblis, Principality with no heal at all. Use Cybele sr together with Iblis? but why? the only good thing with Cybele is her b-frame debuff. Her self-buff with about 50% uptime is just a poor compensation of very low attack (Cybele U has at least guaranted double attack to compensate a low attack, sr version has nothing, Maeve still deals at least not less damage, then buffed Cybele, Chronos outdamages her). Iblis at least has nuke with blind and element buff, so when you have Iblis , Cybele sr is the definitely the worst wind hime.
    I agree, that my wind hime setup is not so great and Maeve is the weakest link, but i can't see better option (just wait for september and pray that i will not fail with Arianrhod just like i failed with Seth and Cybele U, or maybe try to get Chernobog instead? she seems to be powerfull and i already have Osiris to help her with burst and nice sr like Tsuki, Nyarly and Belzy to support them). There are only 2 things that forces me to use wind as main - good enough weapon grid with relic sword and 100+ assault including 2 pride, and Hrae as eydolon.

    BTW, fire Meph is not good at all - her debuff proc chance is very low, maximum 20%. If you don't have Mordred for VoF - almost all debuffs will miss, if you have her - outrage overrides almost everything. I can't see any practical use of this hime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mraktar View Post
    I've got Chronus from the first gacha pull, i used her a lot and must say, that she is not so better then Maeve. Yes, she has b-frame attack debuff with very-very bad prock chance (less then 30% even with VoF) who is anyway overriden by Iblis/Cybele, attack b-frame selfbuff and strong enough nuke (as for SR quality)with 3 turn cd 2 charges stackable selfbuff (but nuke is 5t cd so we want to wait 1 more turn to get maximum performance or lose damage, it's like with Sol - 6t heal and 7t heal buff) and that's all. Maeve has 2 weaker nukes (1 with self-heal) with total damage like Chronos's one and reflect self buff (it helps with overdrives) + more hp. And one more - Maeve is bow-type so she has passive boost from disaster/Kuyuki bows, like Belphy gets bonus from water disaster glavies, while Chronos is glavie-type, and i can't see any event/raid wind glavies. Chronos is a glass cannon, while Maeve is more tanky, but i guess that they are on about the same power level. Krampus/heimdallr are nice, but from 4 raid tickets i've got only Pale rider + 3 duplicate weapons. Freya is nice too, but i have only Iblis, Chronos and Itaqua from gacha. For Principality i need at least one more heavy nuking hime, just single Hastur is not enough for her ability buff, but i will give her a chance, maybe she is not that terrible as i think. I can see only 1 setup with her - Mordred (trial), Hastur, Chronos, Iblis, Principality with no heal at all. Use Cybele sr together with Iblis? but why? the only good thing with Cybele is her b-frame debuff. Her self-buff with about 50% uptime is just a poor compensation of very low attack (Cybele U has at least guaranted double attack to compensate a low attack, sr version has nothing, Maeve still deals at least not less damage, then buffed Cybele, Chronos outdamages her). Iblis at least has nuke with blind and element buff, so when you have Iblis , Cybele sr is the definitely the worst wind hime.
    I agree, that my wind hime setup is not so great and Maeve is the weakest link, but i can't see better option (just wait for september and pray that i will not fail with Arianrhod just like i failed with Seth and Cybele U, or maybe try to get Chernobog instead? she seems to be powerfull and i already have Osiris to help her with burst and nice sr like Tsuki, Nyarly and Belzy to support them). There are only 2 things that forces me to use wind as main - good enough weapon grid with relic sword and 100+ assault including 2 pride, and Hrae as eydolon.

    BTW, fire Meph is not good at all - her debuff proc chance is very low, maximum 20%. If you don't have Mordred for VoF - almost all debuffs will miss, if you have her - outrage overrides almost everything. I can't see any practical use of this hime.
    Honestly, some of those hime like fire meth has a low chance, but outside of SSR, fire meth is the only way to hit the def debuff cap (atk too if it's a wind enemy). On average, I do get half her stuff to hit with a VoF in effect, but that's just RNG.

    But considering you have a 100% Eidolon and a relic weapon, safe to say you'll just have to bite the bullet and hope for RNG. Only other option is the Miracle ticket at this point and you don't want it due to being 100% free.

    So in that case, try to unload a bit on wind boosted characters as they appear

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    On theory, Guild Orders arrive with this event, right?
    How it works exactly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicSpice View Post
    Honestly, some of those hime like fire meth has a low chance, but outside of SSR, fire meth is the only way to hit the def debuff cap (atk too if it's a wind enemy). On average, I do get half her stuff to hit with a VoF in effect, but that's just RNG.

    But considering you have a 100% Eidolon and a relic weapon, safe to say you'll just have to bite the bullet and hope for RNG. Only other option is the Miracle ticket at this point and you don't want it due to being 100% free.

    So in that case, try to unload a bit on wind boosted characters as they appear
    Amaterasu/Konohana+Herc's axe=45%, if you realy need 50% - add Hephastus/ambush. It's easy enough to get fire def cap even with 0 ssr hime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delete View Post
    On theory, Guild Orders arrive with this event, right?
    How it works exactly?
    Supposedly, yeah.
    Guide for using JP wiki
    1/2 - https://youtu.be/hPK8vpqmkCg
    2/2 - https://youtu.be/GhvZJXjngO8 Y U NO WATCH 2ND PART!?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mraktar View Post
    Amaterasu/Konohana+Herc's axe=45%, if you realy need 50% - add Hephastus/ambush. It's easy enough to get fire def cap even with 0 ssr hime.
    Depends on if you pulled said hime or have herc weapons though... for instance, I don't have Amaterasu, others might not have the herc axe

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Supposedly, yeah.
    oh. it came this soon? it been so long. memory hazy. well i aint gonna complain. i'll be anticipating for sure. with popcorn.

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