Thread: [Event 53] Raid Event vs Amalthea

Originally Posted by Mraktar

1)Why not to add Sol to Recommended Soul/Team (normal overrive = 2 bad debuffs)+ she has self-buffs to dispel + heal 2700 is always good if you arent strong enough

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Originally Posted by Ikki

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Well, practically speaking a lot of people don't actually reach that threshold or don't have elemental advantage.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Well, practically speaking a lot of people don't actually reach that threshold or don't have elemental advantage.

Yep, im aware, just pointing that out that shes not necessary, but rather situational based on your own strenght, since the sol bias is strong af in nutaku's community, to the point of having her in every single team, its just gross.

1)Heal is just a nice addition to dispel mass hearts and boss's buffs in this content and -20% attack cframe is very nice debuff too. If you don't need it - you are highly above average player's power level.
2)if you arent strong enough... it's about 90+% players. if you don't have 3+ ssr hime of chosen element and additionaly very good grid and no good ssr heal of chosen element, or you're even stronger and can not to use heal at all, or there are debuffs/buffs to dispel - there is nothing wrong to use Sol in every team, she have no elemental disadvantage at least as light hime.

Originally Posted by Mraktar

there is nothing wrong to use Sol in every team, she have no elemental disadvantage at least as light hime.

Ya nothing wrong, your dmg will suck but nothing important really, but its fine by me, easier to steal the mvp of an off ele sol user

Originally Posted by Ikki

Ya nothing wrong, your dmg will suck but nothing important really, but its fine by me, easier to steal the mvp of an off ele sol user

Get mass hearts from the boss and steal MVP from guy, who can dispel it... okay, nice plan. Or we are talking about expert when boss can die before overdrive? And Sol is only about 10% damage loss if you use her instead of SR, i can approve it by many tests. If you have full ssr grid - sure, why not, Sol is not realy needed when content doesn't require dispel like Illyanka or Tiamat or DUlty. But when your team has only 0-1 ssr - things are different. You shouldn't be reliant on Sol... it's nice to say it when you have Gaja+ Cybele U+ Hastur+Cu Chulain. If i had such team i should say so too, but i have what i have - Hastur, Iblis/Cybele sr, Maeve, Itaqua/Sol.
Gaja is nice and i could gladly change Sol to her in wind team, but she has 2 major problems: 1) she realy needs to be awakened because no mass heal and no invul on intercept is not good at all 2) i don't have her, only Hastur
Andromeda as soul... i don't like this idea at all, i guess that Herc even with no axe or wind Mordred with relic sword (not herc axe because 1) i have hrae's debuff b) no acc with + debuff chance at all ) will be more powerfull than Andy+ sr hime. Maybe it's because i don't have enough strong damage dealers, but have Sol/Osiris and some nice debuffers. Anyway i can't get Andy before next advent to test this team.
Dark.. i have Osiris, but she is my only dark ssr. I have sr debuffers, but no damage dealers and bad weapons grid (i missed Amby event and no DUlty for now) so i don't realy want to use it even vs light, my wind is much stronger even with no element advantage.

i can barely read that comment (it's really all over the place with grammar issues and such), but from what i can tell, it seems that you feel like i made sort of a "pay-to-win" comment...

granted, SSR are what you should aim towards getting, but there's tons of SR weapons carrying assault that can fill the gap... a few of which are grindable (mainly the disaster/catastrophe ones). even events hand them out and they aren't hard to get...

as for SSR kami, yes they're powerful... some can snap the game in half... but there's still strong SR like Triton, Oberon, Nyarlathotep, and Atalanta. more so, some R characters like Zephyrus, Caspiel, and Konohana are very good... (in fact, if you get her debuffs to stick, Fire Mephistopheles is BEYOND SR level). Don't underestimate your weaker rarities, quite a few can be better than you give credit for (it's why my wind team tends to use ithaqua if i do need some heals, but mainly wind ramiel who is ABSURDLY good at buffing and burst buildup).

it still traces back to using what you got. if you feel you can keep your damage going with Sol being off-element for the team, then fine. but if i read your comment right, your damage isn't too great to begin with so you really shouldn't compromise it more.

simply put, i just gave some suggestions. You can take it at face value, dispute it, whatever you want. But at the end of the day, if you aren't clearing content, you're doing something wrong or you just aren't strong enough. besides, i assumed you do have at least some key SSR given 3 miracle tickets have been out thus far (one right now in fact), and rerolling is a thing (in fact, now is a VERY good time to reroll if you aren't too far into the game)

the way i see it, if you have gaia, you don't need Sol... if you're that worried about survival and have gaia, use a gaia/joan combo and practically say "fuck all" to damage... along with being able to alternate between two regens which should cover healing...

but since fire is the advantage in this event, you're gonna want to just go all out damage anyway. dark is the only issue as it lacks healers, but if you got a decent amount of atk/def down, then you should survive with just andromeda (or cassiopeia since the boss can buff herself) if you really need to heal. Bonus points if your dark team has Osiris like me, cause there's healing plus potential damage.

but if your grid isn't up to snuff, then you probably shouldn't try the solo challenge anyway. besides, it's just extra tickets... it's not something highly valuable like drag eye shards, it's just something to slightly help mitigate the grind (cause getting SSR and even SR pulls is a major pain in the ass).

Sol is stupidly strong, there's no denying it. but Ikki is right in the fact that you shouldn't be reliant on her... Despite her powerful kit, she's still oriented to light, meaning you lose damage if she's not on that team and you're using her.