Thread: [Event 54] Advent Battle vs Horus

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

EDIT: Here's the Ragnarok vid too... when I finally took the time to do it....

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i intentionally didn't use PF in that fight... why bother with how much damage I was doing...

>uses basically all debuffs before light resist down

Originally Posted by nonsensei

>uses basically all debuffs before light resist down

overpowered grid so it doesn't matter anyway


besides, sniper shot is more of a damage increase than that light resist debuff... if anything, i'd use sniper then the light resist

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

overpowered grid so it doesn't matter anyway


besides, sniper shot is more of a damage increase than that light resist debuff... if anything, i'd use sniper then the light resist

Under no circumstances in a difficult fight should you ever prioritise sniper shot first over light resist, unless you're looking for death in the form of a debuff miss. When all the debuffs are active though, that can be a different story.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

overpowered grid so it doesn't matter anyway


besides, sniper shot is more of a damage increase than that light resist debuff... if anything, i'd use sniper then the light resist

Do you use VoF after using all your debuffs? If so, I've no complaints or in fact, any other words.

Originally Posted by nonsensei

Do you use VoF after using all your debuffs? If so, I've no complaints or in fact, any other words.

Look, I was doing more than enough damage to not worry about that... even if I was, I do non damaging def drops first, to boost the damage of the damaging ones... with of course the debuff rate increase before anything else...

It's not a case lack of strategy, it's a case of, I had nothing to worry about so I never cared...

If I was at risk of losing, then I'd care. But with my light team having far more than enough stats, I didn't really care about optimized play.

That's like trying to debuff a enemy with 10k HP and you do 150k in a round of attacks, it's up to you but it ultimately doesn't matter

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Under no circumstances in a difficult fight should you ever prioritise sniper shot first over light resist, unless you're looking for death in the form of a debuff miss. When all the debuffs are active though, that can be a different story.

They're talking about Tsukiyomi's light debuff... in which case optimal way is to use sniper, then should the debuff cause the def drop, you do more damage with Tsukiyomi's skill

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

They're talking about Tsukiyomi's light debuff... in which case optimal way is to use sniper, then should the debuff cause the def drop, you do more damage with Tsukiyomi's skill

And then you miss with DEF down from Sniper Shot and it doesn't matter. Light Res down also gives higher chance to hit with debuffs from light characters.
You may obviously miss with Light Res down and everything goes to hell, but... yeah, always good to have higher chance for debuff hitting, especially when playing without element advantage.

Applying an elemental debuff res down acts as def down as well as an affliction tolerance down debuff, like Mordred's VoF. If you're running something without elemental advantage, you'll want it up before you apply debuffs.

What you're essentially doing is the same as using Sniper Shot then VoF, like the above example mentions, instead of VoF then Sniper Shot. The amount of additional damage from using Tsukiyomi's skill after Sniper Shot is negligible unless you're fighting against dark enemies, in which you could justify it in that scenario because of trying to maximize that 6.5x damage modifier, but you're not fighting dark, so the damage difference isn't worth the risk of missing a debuff.

Not that I care too much for this event considering how easy it is, (auto battles Ragnarok with light team). It's just something to note for content that actually matters.

Does that apply to the a elemental buff (like Michael's or Lilim's) on your self aswell (increasing the chance to apply debuffs/afflictions)?

I think that's unknown, as the converse is also an open question: Would an elemental atk debuff reduce the target's ability to inflict debuffs? I've seen the question come up here and there on the wiki, but no answers.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

Look, I was doing more than enough damage to not worry about that... even if I was, I do non damaging def drops first, to boost the damage of the damaging ones... with of course the debuff rate increase before anything else...

It's not a case lack of strategy, it's a case of, I had nothing to worry about so I never cared...

If I was at risk of losing, then I'd care. But with my light team having far more than enough stats, I didn't really care about optimized play.

That's like trying to debuff a enemy with 10k HP and you do 150k in a round of attacks, it's up to you but it ultimately doesn't matter

I can't care less about how you screw your own runs for yourself, but you do it on a video of yours. You got pretty many viewers (considering that KH is pretty niche, duh) & you go out of your way to explain stuff in some of your videos, so some people will obviously think of you as an example to follow. And that is obviously a bad example.