Thread: Guild Orders Megathread

i gave this a blind test run and.... died halfway through crom...

in fact, i lost raphael in 2nd wave due to the middle enemy nuking me for 25k, same thing happened in wave 4 which killed off metatron (raph's replacement)... but given those 1 orb enemies keep putting up high def buffs that also cause reflect damage.... i think i'll have to rearrange my strategy...

but nice to know that with enough atk down, i can get crom to nuke me for around 8k... meaning if i can get my normal lineup to her (mordred, raph, sol, tsuki, and diana), i might be able to survive with my HP topped off (and maybe both amaru and tiamat summoned for safety). everyone is packing over 10k HP (Sol at 14k) if i happen to take a friend hecatonchires. and quite frankly, i might need the HP.... can't get anymore on my grid without replacing a weapon (every weapon with defender is at skill lv 20 with my entire grid as high leveled as it'll get) or another accessory.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

1. For players that absolutely cannot clear the last boss, 1 orichalcum is the best they can grab, clearing 9 missions. If you're having trouble clearing the boss, but still can clear it occasionally, 2 orichaclum is very possible since you clear 10 missions to get them, but 3 orichalcum is gonna be quite a stretch already.

2. Depends. For your case, I recommend you avoid spending orichalcum on orichalcum weapons at all costs so you can save it for 4LB. Additionally, these orichalcum weapons have lower stats than standard raid weapons iirc, so there's not a huge incentive to go for them unless you really need that dual skill, but IMO it's not worth 4 orichalcum.

so its either 1 or 2... I'll take it I guess
yesterday's attempt failed when they took out Mordred for my team, so at that moment I knew I lost already
If she didn't die on round 4 I might've won that, maybe I should let the DATA enemy buff expire next time...

and good point, I just wonder when the FLB for the envy pride axe will come out though...

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

i gave this a blind test run and.... died halfway through crom...

in fact, i lost raphael in 2nd wave due to the middle enemy nuking me for 25k, same thing happened in wave 4 which killed off metatron (raph's replacement)... but given those 1 orb enemies keep putting up high def buffs that also cause reflect damage.... i think i'll have to rearrange my strategy...

but nice to know that with enough atk down, i can get crom to nuke me for around 8k... meaning if i can get my normal lineup to her (mordred, raph, sol, tsuki, and diana), i might be able to survive with my HP topped off (and maybe both amaru and tiamat summoned for safety). everyone is packing over 10k HP (Sol at 14k) if i happen to take a friend hecatonchires. and quite frankly, i might need the HP.... can't get anymore on my grid without replacing a weapon (every weapon with defender is at skill lv 20 with my entire grid as high leveled as it'll get) or another accessory.

The HP is no longer a bottleneck at your stage IMO.

We're currently in that transition stage where high level content begins to pretty heavily punish debuff turtling, you can't exactly rely on stacking higher HP against the trash/ bosses all the time because eventually they'll out damage your HP, and there's only so much you can do with your base HP.

What you do need, IMO, is to begin exploring new setups with either your himes or your souls. It's tough, but try laying off the Mordred, and run Hercules PF (if you have axe), or Joan sniper shot to begin with. Hercules PF is the obvious nuke Crom down option, and you might be better off killing off certain trash mobs super early so you don't eat a heavy overdrive nuke, while Joan is for if you want to opt for turtling. If I were to pull an analogy, Mordred is like that walking aid you had as a child to learn how to walk, but you can't get too attached to it.

Edit: Well there's one thing I wanted you to do but forgot to include in: just use a Mana support and forget Heca.

I slayed it and recorded it if people need data:
https://youtu.be/WyaAa1ib7Bo
Forgot to enable game sounds.

So I am a decent player with a decent grid. 138/20.5.

First off lower end players should not be too concerned with clearing it. GO clearly leaves with enough room for participation trophy with their first 5 missions, none of which requiring you to clear.

If you participate 5 times and get to lv 3 every time, you get 5 mission points per week. That's 10 biweekly and you get 2 Orichalum or however it's spelled and 800 magic jewels.

You cannot clear this boss without some sort of dmg cut. As previous thread mentioned boss has a rage trigger AoE that can wipe team. Ideally even Raphael's dmg cut is not good enough because it will still hurt, so you want either team members that can apply a lot of attack down fire dmg down or fire resist up and def up in addition to dmg cut. Knocking boss into rage and out of rage in a single turn WILL NOT stop boss from AoEing in your face. This is from personal experience.

Clearing the mission multiple times after you have accomplished all mission is useless. Clearing itself doesn't give you mission points, so you would be wasting your time if you have cleared all your missions. The 5 missions that require clearing from easiest to hardest, in my opinion, are:

1. 5 member survive (team with good healers and dmg cut can accomplish this, without them clearing itself is difficult. Andro's resuscitation also helps keep headcount who "survived" in check)
2. Soul survive (soul down is usually the first sign of team wipe, clearing will become more difficult after soul down. If you can clear with soul down try a couple more times and I am sure you can clear with soul up)
3. 3 Specific types of kamis (not sure if it's just attacker, but ideally you want 1 defense, 1 healer, and 1 tricky for debuff, that leaves only 4 spaces...)
4. 3 or more SR kamis (limitation on the whales, pick kamis that are super useful, like AoE def debuff Atalanta or rage gauge drain Bel for this fire bounty)
5. Specific soul (I am sure no one has every soul's relic prepared and ready to go. This is the most challenging and should be attempted at your own disgression).

I have not passed the GO on my own account but have done so on a friend's account with a more well balanced team (more SSRs), but players with weaker grids should not worry too much and should focus on clearing until lv 3 for their 10 MP biweekly. On clearing the small fry focus on the 2 charge 3 charge small fries, they will easily tear your kamis apart while the 1 charge small fry only annoys you and does not really do much damage.

Originally Posted by swmh283

So I am a decent player with a decent grid. 138/20.5.

First off lower end players should not be too concerned with clearing it. GO clearly leaves with enough room for participation trophy with their first 5 missions, none of which requiring you to clear.

If you participate 5 times and get to lv 3 every time, you get 5 mission points per week. That's 10 biweekly and you get 2 Orichalum or however it's spelled and 800 magic jewels.

You cannot clear this boss without some sort of dmg cut. As previous thread mentioned boss has a rage trigger AoE that can wipe team. Ideally even Raphael's dmg cut is not good enough because it will still hurt, so you want either team members that can apply a lot of attack down fire dmg down or fire resist up and def up in addition to dmg cut. Knocking boss into rage and out of rage in a single turn WILL NOT stop boss from AoEing in your face. This is from personal experience.

Clearing the mission multiple times after you have accomplished all mission is useless. Clearing itself doesn't give you mission points, so you would be wasting your time if you have cleared all your missions. The 5 missions that require clearing from easiest to hardest, in my opinion, are:

1. 5 member survive (team with good healers and dmg cut can accomplish this, without them clearing itself is difficult. Andro's resuscitation also helps keep headcount who "survived" in check)
2. Soul survive (soul down is usually the first sign of team wipe, clearing will become more difficult after soul down. If you can clear with soul down try a couple more times and I am sure you can clear with soul up)
3. 3 Specific types of kamis (not sure if it's just attacker, but ideally you want 1 defense, 1 healer, and 1 tricky for debuff, that leaves only 4 spaces...)
4. 3 or more SR kamis (limitation on the whales, pick kamis that are super useful, like AoE def debuff Atalanta or rage gauge drain Bel for this fire bounty)
5. Specific soul (I am sure no one has every soul's relic prepared and ready to go. This is the most challenging and should be attempted at your own disgression).

I have not passed the GO on my own account but have done so on a friend's account with a more well balanced team (more SSRs), but players with weaker grids should not worry too much and should focus on clearing until lv 3 for their 10 MP biweekly. On clearing the small fry focus on the 2 charge 3 charge small fries, they will easily tear your kamis apart while the 1 charge small fry only annoys you and does not really do much damage.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure you have to kill the boss with the "3 offensive" and "3 SRs" in your team missions.

I'm a bit hesistant to try with this week, but I might want to with the 2nd week of requirements since we actually have a full 7 days.

Envy weapons will pick up their FLB the next time Envy comes around. That'll be next January. Which is fine since we don't have dark ult/old ragnarok yet, so we can't even farm up some dark regalia yet.

You max out at 1 orichalcum if you can't possibly beat the whole thing. The second week's set of missions changes up to only have 4 more points available that don't require clearing, so that's a total of 9 over the two weeks. And you'll need 10 for that 2nd ori. If you can manage to clear the quest entirely at least once and satisfying a mission or two, you should be set for the 2nd ori. Funny enough, if you don't have a fantastic team for a particular element, the 3+ SRs or below (as you need 4 SSRs to push you out of this one) is probably the requirement you satisfy just by walking in with whatever you have. And for Crom Cruach, a mission asks for 3+ Attack types, and that's the most common filler type as far as I'm aware of.

If you're fine with just 1 ori every 2 weeks, then you only need 6 points. You can pick up those through:
1st week: Challenge 3x, Challenge 5x, Clear 1st stage 3 times, Clear 2nd stage 3 times
2nd week: Challenge 5x, Clear 2nd Stage 3 times

That does emphasize at least making the attempt every single day you can. And honestly, if you're aiming for just those 6 points exactly, and you need it, just go ahead and burst through stage 2.

Beyond that... if you're basically set on 10+ points, the next question is if you should really bother for 18/20 or not. Forget about the grimoires at 12/15, we get enough of those elsewhere. If you can clear the quest but absolutely needed luck to do so (like me), just settle for the 2 ori at 10 points. I can't clear with Arthur this week. I won't be able to clear with Joan next week either, as I need Andromeda's heals for my setup to get through. I don't think I can clear with 3 R's. Or clear the last stage within 15 turns. Or be able to clear with making sure I have at least 1 of each type in the party. I don't expect to be able to hit 18 points, so I'll probably just relax next week and pick up the ones that don't require clearing.

well... that was unexpected
my first GO win today, I have no idea if i just got lucky.. or did the right strategy with the correct timings or...
both

i'm probably not gonna win this again but at least I won once

Oh, might as well list what I used to scrape by, as something for others to compare against:

Name-------HP---Atk
Andromeda:-7108/42493
Atalanta:---5494/39593
Triton: -----5769/38774
Nike:-------5504/36974
Snow Raph: 6414/40474

Ea:---------6404/43095
Enkidu: ----5392/39687 (1st attempt)
Cupid: -----5829/37274 (2nd attempt)

Assault: 109% (146 skill lvls + 36 directly from assault M/L) + 2 pride (L)
Defender: 20% (well, HP's already listed above)

Jack Frost (main!)/Yamata no Orochi/Yggdrasil/Jormungandr/Sphinx/Tiamat
Friend slot is whatever Rudra I can find from random non-friends

I did (barely) succeed on both attempts so far. 1st attempt had Andromeda die off to the raging overdrive, so I picked up the 3+ SRs and 3+ Attack types (Atalanta/Ea/Enkidu)
2nd attempt had Andromeda survive (thus the soul survives point) and res allowed me to insure the 5+ members survive point.
I definitely don't hit hard enough for a Full Burst to take care of raging. Also, when it comes to cleanly pushing into raging to allow setting up for the trigger, I have very little room to work with. I probably should take advantage of the 2 turn duration on Snow Raph's damage cut...

Oh, and I actually full burst through the 2nd stage. I have enough healing and Snow Raph's damage cut to allow me to turtle to FB again in stage 3.

Oh yea, forgot to mention my ex skill. It's Ambush.