Thread: Soul weapon discussion

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I have a perfect setup for a Berserk build (Morgan Elemental ATK weapon) with my Wind team. This team can pull off 22+ attacks per 2 turns of Berserk, for nearly as much damage as a Provisional Forest buffed Full Burst. The combination of Berserk and a PF-buffed Full Burst is a highly potent strategy to maximize spike damage. Since many encounters have spike damage checks, usually linked to a punishing Rage Overdrive (typically on a 3-4T timer), maximizing spike damage in a 3T window is a highly effective strategy for clearing many high-difficulty encounters.

Sounds interesting. I wonder if Morgan is able to keep up for burst in speed builds like that though. Think if you have a team that can pull off 22+ attacks in 2 turns, Shingen would probably be the better choice for FBs, no?

I'm a bit sad that I'll never get to try the machine gun burst tactics that wind has myself, mainly because I don't have a wind team... lacking almost all of the himes needed to make that happen. Unless jewel gacha RNG changes things drastically on that count for me, I will only be able to speculate on such builds. :<

The closest thing I have for experiencing a fast burst build is in my water with Ashy+Atalanta+Aphro (the triple-A combo, as I call it), but Herc seems more than capable of keeping up with that combo, so I'm not sure if Shingen will really even benefit my current lineup. I will still likely get Shingen's relics anyway, simply because I have enough spare regalias to do so and eventually get all of the souls' ones even. But sadly, I don't think I'll ever get to experience the chain-gun burst builds currently (due to just not having enough himes).

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

I'm a bit sad that I'll never get to try the machine gun burst tactics that wind has myself, mainly because I don't have a wind team...

The fact that I'm missing Wind Pussy makes me die a little inside, Titania, Cybele, Aether (in November) and Wind Pussy together with Shingen is turn 2 or 3 burst everytime, it's stupid how much burst generation that team has.

Originally Posted by Laventale

The fact that I'm missing Wind Pussy makes me die a little inside, Titania, Cybele, Aether (in November) and Wind Pussy together with Shingen is turn 2 or 3 burst everytime, it's stupid how much burst generation that team has.

You're making me second guess my decision to miracle Uriel...

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

You're making me second guess my decision to miracle Uriel...

Here.

Originally Posted by Laventale

Here.

Bruh, that's actually busted.

Are there any videos on battles that last longer than 1 FB? I'm curious how consistently the burst generation rolls in...

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

You're making me second guess my decision to miracle Uriel...

Did you have Wind Poseidon? Since she can't be Miracle Ticketed.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Did you have Wind Poseidon? Since she can't be Miracle Ticketed.

I do have, which is why I hesitated.

Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo

Sounds interesting. I wonder if Morgan is able to keep up for burst in speed builds like that though. Think if you have a team that can pull off 22+ attacks in 2 turns, Shingen would probably be the better choice for FBs, no?

A Berserk build is specialized for spike damage, not sustained damage. Think Catastrophes. You want to end the Rage phase (the damage check) ASAP. After that you just need to generate Burst and ready your ability cooldowns for the next Rage phase. Titania can even out the Burst generation to get in a second Burst if needed, but that's sort of unique to Wind.

Rapid Burst builds are an alternative focused more on 5-6T damage. In Wind builds, the Provisional Forest cooldown can actually end up being a bottleneck. It's not clear whether the extra elemental ATK from one weapon is worth forgoing the useful skill on the other weapon that further improves Burst damage (together with extra HP). It's probably situational.

Is it worth farming for both a weapon for Morgan and one for Shingen? Maybe if you don't have enough spike damage for some fights with Shingen (and don't need the EX slot), or enough sustained damage in other fights with Morgan. Morgan isn't terribly flexible; she can only Berserk once every 8T, and triple attack only once every 10T. If you need optimized spike damage more often than that, or you want to rely on Gaia's defensive skills, then Shingen will be the better option.

As for the debate over whether Regalia are difficult to farm, imagine you were a Rank 40 user that could barely nick the Catastrophes and you were relying primarily on (similarly weak) friends, who probably only join once the boss is half dead. Spawning raids that might not be cleared could actually be a waste of time and resources.

Alternatively, one could be slow to farm regalia on the basis of just wanting to save up half-elixirs and seeds for when multiple days are missed (or wanting to farm certain 2nd reprints...), which is what I do. So I really only have the AP to start up raids on off days and the BP to join raids during advents and off days. For example, I'm a rank 111 player sitting at 5 fire, 60 water, 60 wind, 55 thunder, and 10 light regalia. I haven't spend a single regalia yet either.