Thread: Soul weapon discussion

The final set of Soul weapons has been released. Has anyone tested the Morgan and Shingen weapons to make sure they work as they're supposed to? My confidence in the support team is pretty low. Also, Morgan's Berserk ability was tweaked at some point in the DMM version, so that further reduces my confidence that the weapon-buffed ability will do what I expect.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

The final set of Soul weapons has been released. Has anyone tested the Morgan and Shingen weapons to make sure they work as they're supposed to? My confidence in the support team is pretty low. Also, Morgan's Berserk ability was tweaked at some point in the DMM version, so that further reduces my confidence that the weapon-buffed ability will do what I expect.

That's why it's hard to tell how's Morgan's staff is supposed to work. Changes to her 3rd ability should come next week, so waiting for that is a good idea.

I got me the staff for Morgan for the party-rampage and from what it looks like it works as it should. I get the partywide effect and the damage is twice as high as usual attacks. Unless there were other changes that I'm not aware of, this looks to work properly so far.

Originally Posted by Itoshira

I got me the staff for Morgan for the party-rampage and from what it looks like it works as it should. I get the partywide effect and the damage is twice as high as usual attacks. Unless there were other changes that I'm not aware of, this looks to work properly so far.

There will be (or at least should be). Morgan's rampage skill will be party-wide with, or without weapon. What weapon will change is effect of rampage, from 30% to 100%.

Originally Posted by Itoshira

I got me the staff for Morgan for the party-rampage and from what it looks like it works as it should. I get the partywide effect and the damage is twice as high as usual attacks. Unless there were other changes that I'm not aware of, this looks to work properly so far.

That's interesting. Without the weapon it's still single-target (just tested). This combination of single-target Berserk without a Soul weapon and party-wide with never existed in the DMM version, I think.

I went ahead and bought a copy, and it works exactly as you describe. The effect applies 1-by-1 to each party member, which is annoying since it wastes time.

Did some digging around the JP wiki.

There should be a change coming up to make her rampage skill party-wide by default. The difference between using a relic or not is the multiplier of the rampage.

Without relic, the effect of rampage seems to be 1.2 times while with relic it is 2 times.

So the relic is fine, it is just a different multiplier between using a relic or not when that change happens.

Edit: I noticed this on a couple abilities, mainly party-wide buffs that they are added seperatly instead of all at once. Not all do that, but some. Hell knows for what reason though.

Sorry to dig this off, but what is the best weapon for Shingen at the end of the day ?

Let's say we're considering Fire team (with something like 2 SSRs), debuff irrelevant. Would you say Lance is definetely better ? (I'm leaning towards this, but a 40~50% burst dmg increase with the Bow sounds Ok I guess, especially if you just go for LB0 Bow for somehow a Burst Build)

You almost always want the offensive weapon, since 30% Elemental Attack is just too much to pass up on. The skill-buffing is better for most HP weapons, excluding Herc and Morgan. Also, Shingen's weapons fulfill a different role:

1. The offensive weapon allows Shingen to use PF without outside help
2. The defensive weapons lets your bursts hit like a truck, but Shingen will need help from the party

Most of the time, the offensive weapon is better even for Shingen since, again, the 30% Elemental Attack is just too much. It's something to consider if you own Belial yourself and are running a friend Belial as well, though.