Thread: [Event 55] Raid Battle vs Trivia

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

But on topic, i do think that people that care enough about the game to get a minimum amount of information from forums, should aim for as many rewards as possible, since some will stick around for longer, and bite themselfes in the rear later that they did not finish the event.

I've been playing this game casually since the beginning and I'm doing just fine. Just got to play efficiently and know what to prioritize.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I've been playing this game casually since the beginning and I'm doing just fine. Just got to play efficiently and know what to prioritize.

Iirc you're also not completely F2P. In fact you even get paid my Nutaku for all the people that sign up through your links.

If they ask for help in DMs, and you choose to answer in public, then how about you share their questions to you so that we can also give feedback on their questions. Just you spouting out like that without any context that we see gives us the impression that you're telling this to everyone.

Plus you automatically assume what "most players" are doing when you can't make that claim because you don't have actual data. You then go on to state your opinion that the rest of the rewards aren't really worth the effort. Sure a player can get better over time, but if they never (or rarely) draw from Gacha then their teams are not going to progress very well, because they won't get the much needed abiliteis from Kami that they need to get from Gacha. Whales can certainly play with that minimum effort, and last I checked they are not your target audience. A F2P player will be stuck with sub-par teams for a while slowly getting stronger. Slow progress kills most peoples interest, imo.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I've been playing this game casually since the beginning and I'm doing just fine. Just got to play efficiently and know what to prioritize.

Perhaps a better approach is to first ask the person looking for advice what he wants to do: be hardcore or play casually, because otherwise it would feel like forcing a playstyle on other people.

Either that, or you could just offer perspectives from both playstyles. I really don't see the harm putting in the extra effort, other than you're putting in extra effort.

Why are ppl recommending getting the ssr weapon even though its not their main element? Isnt it a waste for new player to burn their resources for smtg that they will only use later or wont use at all?

Btw, i am quite an active player. Its usual to have different opinion, its just depend on the person which advice he(me) wanna take, besides i like to see every1 way of playing the game and see what is the best for me to take based on my resource and playstyle.

Thank you every1 for your suggestion.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Perhaps a better approach is to first ask the person looking for advice what he wants to do: be hardcore or play casually, because otherwise it would feel like forcing a playstyle on other people.

Either that, or you could just offer perspectives from both playstyles. I really don't see the harm putting in the extra effort, other than you're putting in extra effort.

I didn't post here to write a comprehensive guide on the subject. One perspective was already covered; I offered an alternative. I expected people to read it, perhaps ask for clarification, and then move to the next conversation topic.

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Why are ppl recommending getting the ssr weapon even though its not their main element? Isnt it a waste for new player to burn their resources for smtg that they will only use later or wont use at all?

You need the eidolon anyway, and you'll be picking up the weapon along the way. No extra resources required, plus the SSR weapon copies will be nice stat sources while you're building your Wind grid.

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Why are ppl recommending getting the ssr weapon even though its not their main element? Isnt it a waste for new player to burn their resources for smtg that they will only use later or wont use at all?

Btw, i am quite an active player. Its usual to have different opinion, its just depend on the person which advice he(me) wanna take, besides i like to see every1 way of playing the game and see what is the best for me to take based on my resource and playstyle.

Thank you every1 for your suggestion.

When people recommend you hog every SSR available, they have the end game in mind, the end game being you have a solid team for each element because elemental advantage in this game is busted as all hell.

SSRs are kind of bound by events, and there are only so many for each element, you'll theoretically need 30-54 events, depending on whether you get a double weapon event or not, to get a full grid for every single element, which is why you should invest in it as early as you can...

... if you care about playing optimally. There certainly is nothing wrong with not desiring to get all the best stuff instantly, the optimal playstyle can be pretty stressful to sustain. Pick your poison at the end of the day, I suppose.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

I didn't post here to write a comprehensive guide on the subject. One perspective was already covered; I offered an alternative. I expected people to read it, perhaps ask for clarification, and then move to the next conversation topic.

That's fair enough, but again it doesn't hurt to reiterate some points, especially given if you know some people are going to challenge your perspective.

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Why are ppl recommending getting the ssr weapon even though its not their main element? Isnt it a waste for new player to burn their resources for smtg that they will only use later or wont use at all?

Btw, i am quite an active player. Its usual to have different opinion, its just depend on the person which advice he(me) wanna take, besides i like to see every1 way of playing the game and see what is the best for me to take based on my resource and playstyle.

Thank you every1 for your suggestion.

in the long run, you will finish your main element, and one offelement to support your main element (unless you are light/dark that have no weaknesses).
Once you are at that point, you can either go full casual, or start working on other grids (assuming you do your daily 100x 10 draws on gemcha dutifully), since you get every week a new event, with new ssr weapon/eido. so if you do them, you will amass ssr weapons for all grids, and since the gacha gives you stuff wether you want it or not, you will start getting ssr himes for other elements too.
Let it take 2-3 months to finish one grid fully, once you are at that point: what to do with all those grails/rare/sr weapons? why not just pump them into other grids and slowly improve everything?

Thats how many of us do it, Heck there is someone in my union that is 100% free to play, has horrendous bad luck with drawing stuff from gacha, but demolishes your average whales with his Grids alone, while beeing able to clear all content.

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Why are ppl recommending getting the ssr weapon even though its not their main element? Isnt it a waste for new player to burn their resources for smtg that they will only use later or wont use at all?

So that you can use it off element until you get your monogrid up and running?

The reality of the game is, the longer you plan to stay in the game, the contents will only get harder.

If you plan to be reasonably active, best to farm, otherwise just play the game at your pace.

Going down the casual route will also mean struggling with end game content... so there’s that

Originally Posted by Seraphim01

Why are ppl recommending getting the ssr weapon even though its not their main element? Isnt it a waste for new player to burn their resources for smtg that they will only use later or wont use at all?

Btw, i am quite an active player. Its usual to have different opinion, its just depend on the person which advice he(me) wanna take, besides i like to see every1 way of playing the game and see what is the best for me to take based on my resource and playstyle.

Thank you every1 for your suggestion.

For a new player, it's generally a good idea to build up a weapons grid of all MLB SSR weapons, even if they are not the same element (this is referred to as a Rainbow Grid by most of us). This allows you to build up your attack power quickly while you work on same element weapon skill levels on the side. Even if you have Assault SRs with Skill Level 20 they will be better than off element SSRs, but it takes a bit of time to get them to that point.

The Rainbow grid will allow you to complete Ultimate Difficulty in Advents, and (depending on your Kami) even Ragnarok difficulty in Advents. For Raids you'll be able to handle Expert difficulty, but Ragnarok you will need help. To beat content that is more difficult than those you will need a weapon grid of full Skill Levels with same element.

Eventually you will want to have multiple Single Element Weapons Grids, so it's good to collect now to help towards that future. However, for the sake of speed, if you want to focus on a single element you can. There will be some events that you will not be able to do so well at. But focusing on a single element goes faster than working on all 6 at once (I should know, I did the latter and it took a while for me to get strong).