Thread: [Event 55] Raid Battle vs Trivia

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Raid battles are a matter of reaching maximum 250 divine souls (normal and expert drops) and 100 devil souls (ragnarok drops) to get a set list of rewards, along with gathering raid gacha tickets which drop from every raid. You can host the raid yourself using AP (and summon drops from the lower tier raid, you need 3 summon drops from normal to host an expert for example), or you can join someone's raid using BP. You'll likely be doing the latter option, and that's how most new players will clear this event.

Should a new player do it? No reason not to. Newbies will most often get carried by higher level players in raids, and besides the rewards are great, even if you don't main the element. SSR eido and weapons are a must to keep unless they're trash, you get 23 premium gacha tickets and 3k jewels if you get all the divine and devil souls, and you get quite a lot of stuff from the raid gacha tickets, which drop pretty often from raids.

Most players will just want to farm the 50 Blue Souls and 55 Red Souls for the SSR weapon and eidolon. Returns diminish greatly after that. Don't burn too many BP consumables because you'll want to save some for Catastrophes. That's your ticket to easy SR assault weapons and Soul weapons, which can be an excellent power boost. Don't forget to farm the 15AP Disaster for your primary element 3x a day outside Advent events.

Originally Posted by sanahtlig

Most players will just want to farm the 50 Blue Souls and 55 Red Souls for the SSR weapon and eidolon. Returns diminish greatly after that. Don't burn too many BP consumables because you'll want to save some for Catastrophes. That's your ticket to easy SR assault weapons and Soul weapons, which can be an excellent power boost. Don't forget to farm the 15AP Disaster for your primary element 3x a day outside Advent events.

Are you sure about that Sana? Most players that I see go after the full 250/100 clear for Raid events. Seeds are easy to get from Disaster/Catastrophe drops as well as daily Gemcha. If a new player paces themselves well enough they can get away with clearing the event with only 100 seeds. I used to do that when I first started.

In fact, I would be very interested in taking a poll just to see what the majority of people do (although that data may be skewed because the only people that would see it are the ones here and in discord, and those are the people that I usually see clear all rewards).

I usually do atleast 200/100 on raid events, going further depends a bit on the raid itself. I remember I was going nuts on St. Nic and Barong, well, as being a Light-User it kinda makes sense.
It also depends on how annoying or not the Boss is as I tend to solo usually my Experts (Amalthea was a bit of a pain cause Fire team was not so strong and Light was sometimes a bit sketchy).

Considering Trivia now, I will probably farm the living hell out of her (Seeds, Gems, possible SRs from the Gacha), so 250/100 will it probably be. Mostly to prep for Phoenix and the 2 weapons, cause they gonna be SL'd instantly.

What I see is a bit mixed. I see some 50/55 people that do some more when they have the mood for it but dont really go hard, I see 200/100 and also people that go nuts. So probably depends on where you look around.

Most players will just want to farm the 50 Blue Souls and 55 Red Souls for the SSR weapon and eidolon. Returns diminish greatly after that. Don't burn too many BP consumables because you'll want to save some for Catastrophes. That's your ticket to easy SR assault weapons and Soul weapons, which can be an excellent power boost. Don't forget to farm the 15AP Disaster for your primary element 3x a day outside Advent events.

Yeah because 3k Jewel, 23 summon tick and 2 eye frags are "Returns diminish greatly"

Originally Posted by SlickFenix

Are you sure about that Sana? Most players that I see go after the full 250/100 clear for Raid events. Seeds are easy to get from Disaster/Catastrophe drops as well as daily Gemcha. If a new player paces themselves well enough they can get away with clearing the event with only 100 seeds. I used to do that when I first started.

In fact, I would be very interested in taking a poll just to see what the majority of people do (although that data may be skewed because the only people that would see it are the ones here and in discord, and those are the people that I usually see clear all rewards).

That really depends on how define "most players" or "new players". I'm fairly sure that numerically, most players only get the SSRs. The active people - the people here for example - tend to go for 225(/250)/100.

Originally Posted by Mirage

Yeah because 3k Jewel, 23 summon tick and 2 eye frags are "Returns diminish greatly"

Nothing, nothing and nearly nothing when compared to 2 SSRs is indeed greatly diminishing returns, actually.

Originally Posted by Slashley

That really depends on how define "most players" or "new players". I'm fairly sure that numerically, most players only get the SSRs. The active people - the people here for example - tend to go for 225(/250)/100.Nothing, nothing and nearly nothing when compared to 2 SSRs is indeed greatly diminishing returns, actually.

How can you know if you don't actually talk to them, or have access to actual data? You're just throwing a wild guess out there without any proof.

Secondly, just getting the Event SSR weapons and Eidos is not the only way to get good. It certainly is the primary way, imo, but you also need to get new Kami to have access to different skills and combinations. Those are only obtained through Jewels and Tickets (especially for F2P players). Also, just having the weapons/eidos isn't good enough, you also need to Skill Level the weapons for them to really be of use and you can't do that without materials, which can also be obtained from the rewards as well as part of the rolls from tickets and Jewels. Oh, and don't forget that you need Gems to Limit Break said weapons that you are farming, as well as the Eidolons and Kami. Those are part of the rewards as well. Oh and books for the Final Limit Break of SR and SSR Kami as well as FLB SSR weapons now. All part of the rewards.

To me it seems that all of the rewards are fairly important to anyone that wants to get strong enough to stand on their own.

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Originally Posted by SlickFenix

How can you know if you don't actually talk to them, or have access to actual data? You're just throwing a wild guess out there without any proof.--

Well, you go and talk to the ~10k players who touch Union Events, then. Come back with the consensus. I'll be waiting.

But no, really, in every single game 'casuals' are always the numerical majority. As such, it really comes down to how you define "majority." Usually when we speak of "majority" here, it's basically never the "numerical majority" - it's the "majority of the people we consider active players." Even I fell for that, really - the "numerical majority" probably doesn't even reach 50/55 Souls per raid event.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Well, you go and talk to the ~10k players who touch Union Events, then. Come back with the consensus. I'll be waiting.

But no, really, in every single game 'casuals' are always the numerical majority. As such, it really comes down to how you define "majority." Usually when we speak of "majority" here, it's basically never the "numerical majority" - it's the "majority of the people we consider active players." Even I fell for that, really - the "numerical majority" probably doesn't even reach 50/55 Souls per raid event.

But if the Numerical Majority is as you say Casuals that just get minimums, what makes you think they come in here to get advice? If they get the minimums then I doubt they care enough to learn how to get better and just figure things out as they go along. But again this is all assumption based. IMO the best thing to do is give specific advice to players in their situation, or the generality of players that come to these forums (which I doubt would be super casual).

I think the point has already been lost in translation but... eh.

Originally Posted by SlickFenix

But if the Numerical Majority is as you say Casuals that just get minimums,--

As I said in my second post, I doubt the "numerical majority" even gets minimums. They do a couple of raids here and there and that's it.


Anyway, just keep in mind that 3000 Jewels, ~20 tickets will basically grant you "fuck all." Is it better than nothing? Absolutely. But it's nothing that one should lose their sleep over. The more you play Kamihime, the stronger you'll get. That's really all there is to it.