The "which Soul should I use?" thread

[MrTouchdown]

I main thunder in the DMM version with Marduk AW, Mammon, Raiko, Dianketch or whatever, i have Brahma and Tyr in the bench ,i already have Mordred, D'art, Hercules and Arthur, i was saving the HSP for Morgan because Shingen appeared later and i think Morgan looks great (i checked just by now the Provisional Forest and im thinking about unlocking Yukimura by now lol), im currently using Mordred with Hercules' offensive buff and im working on getting the draconic shards to awaken Raiko, i enjoy playing with this team a lot, and also i feel it bursts really quick.

[Cobblemaniac]

I main thunder in the DMM version with Marduk AW, Mammon, Raiko, Dianketch or whatever, i have Brahma and Tyr in the bench ,i already have Mordred, D'art, Hercules and Arthur, i was saving the HSP for Morgan because Shingen appeared later and i think Morgan looks great (i checked just by now the Provisional Forest and im thinking about unlocking Yukimura by now lol), im currently using Mordred with Hercules' offensive buff and im working on getting the draconic shards to awaken Raiko, i enjoy playing with this team a lot, and also i feel it bursts really quick.

... which runs faster if you were to go with Herc/ Arthur, and eventually Shingen atm.

Mordred is just a bottleneck to your speed at this point. And since you already have Dian, all the more incentive to burst faster.

[Dejnov]

I main thunder in the DMM version with Marduk AW, Mammon, Raiko, Dianketch or whatever, i have Brahma and Tyr in the bench ,i already have Mordred, D'art, Hercules and Arthur, i was saving the HSP for Morgan because Shingen appeared later and i think Morgan looks great (i checked just by now the Provisional Forest and im thinking about unlocking Yukimura by now lol), im currently using Mordred with Hercules' offensive buff and im working on getting the draconic shards to awaken Raiko, i enjoy playing with this team a lot, and also i feel it bursts really quick.

I think the general rule of thumb I use for most of my teams is if you can burst in 3 (4th turn burst), you will get better mileage from Shingen. If you burst by 5 (6th turn burst), you should be using Hercules or Arthur. If I'm not ready to burst by 5, I need to rethink my hime layout.

Also note: I really prefer the tanky Herc with the DEF debuff Axe but Arthur can use it also. So it's a matter of preference.

Dejnov.

[MrTouchdown]

I have been doing a few tests with Mordred with bursts at 4-5 turn, then switched to Hercules and yes, bursts came more often, i got a little damage boost, and with sniper shot , my bursts were about 125-150k per kami at level 81 using Kirin as support and Huanglong as main against the Ultimate rank Lightning Catastrophe.

So i thank you both for your help , i want to keep improving this team the most possible, always open to new ideas or suggestions.

[Dejnov]

I have been doing a few tests with Mordred with bursts at 4-5 turn, then switched to Hercules and yes, bursts came more often, i got a little damage boost, and with sniper shot , my bursts were about 125-150k per kami at level 81 using Kirin as support and Huanglong as main against the Ultimate rank Lightning Catastrophe.

So i thank you both for your help , i want to keep improving this team the most possible, always open to new ideas or suggestions.

If you can get it down to 3-4 turns, Shingen will be better than Herc. Until then, you can always try using Provisional Forest with Herc for higher damage than Sniper shot.


Dejnov.

[MrTouchdown]

Yes i will work on unlocking Shingen, i have to level up Yukimura, Masamune and save the rest of the points to unlock her, meanwhile im using sniper shot, waiting on saturday to quickly level up both Yuki and Masamune, sad day because i already had 500 HSP , but i will need to spend them all now haha.

[trew]

Hello.

Right now I'm trying to unlock souls to gather bonuses and I would like feedback to now which order should I take to the ones I don't have.

I have:
standard: all but van hellsing and crowley
Elite: All but gawain, asmund and cagliosto
Legendary: I only have hercules and andromeda.

Right now, the HSP are for shingen, but I don't have enough and it will take a while...
But I have 620 SP and I can unlock some more. Both standards and some legendari (dartagnan, joan of arc, siegfried).

Any reccomendations about which one should I prioritize?

My team is fire (uriel, svarog (aw), mars, bryhildr), with herc.

[Keyen]

In my very limited experience, I would say either D'Artagnan, so you can unlock sniper shot and get a better farming soul overall, or Mordred, if Black propaganda is required.

Since D'Artagnan is directly unlockable in your case (you need 180 more sp for Mordred), I would recommand the former over the latter, but I may be wrong.



Edit: I will also post my question about the "which soul should I use". New player, with Belial so currently Fire focused, with Ryu-oh on the side. First, I unlocked Hercules because everyone said it was a powerhouse and she really is. Then, I unlocked D'Artagnan for Sniper shot (on Hercules) and maybe try to get the bonus drop when farming. Currently, my fire team is Agni/Hephaestus/Raguel/Brynhildr.

Basically, debuff wise, I'm at ~35% def debuff and 35% attack debuff.

I will also be more or less able to buy a soul weapon soon, and that's when I started thinking. If instead of Hercules with the axe, I run D'artagnan with the HP gun and ryu oh, I can immediately cap both the def and attack debuff (meaning I will take 23% less damage overall from bosses and do 30% more damage), I get the black propaganda effect, and I can use more or less anyone (since the major debuffs are covered at max effect) instead of currently mandatory Hephaestus + Raguel (Raguel has a good punch against raging enemy, but Hepha is quite meh out of her debuff, since Brunhildr has already a A-frame attack buff). I mean, I guess it's not really useful currently since I have no one to use instead, but maybe in the futur?

Or I should just get this hercules axe, don't ever use Ryu-oh on a fire team, get the def debuff on burst (which apply after her own burst I guess?) and switch between 40% (Axe + Hepha), 45% (Axe + Sniper shot) or a way overcapped 60% (Axe + hepha + sniper shot), and call it a day? The main problem I have with that is how the skill effect from the axe is quite "meh" for me right now (Hercules is always way ahead of other burst-gauge wise) while both effects from d'Artagnan gun are useful (the def/attack debuff and the DATA buff).

[Unregistered]

The issue is that without element advantage, your ability to land a debuff suffers. I don't know by how much, but this is noticeable. And Ryu-oh already has a reputation of below average accuracy with her debuffs (I don't have her so I can't speak from experience). Using her off-element is probably not advised.

[Slashley]

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Or I should just get this hercules axe, don't ever use Ryu-oh on a fire team, get the def debuff on burst (which apply after her own burst I guess?) -- or a way overcapped 60% (Axe + hepha + sniper shot), and call it a day? --

This.

Notice two things:
1. The Axe - like all Soul weapons - gains the Burst effect at 1 Star and upgrades at 3 Star. That means you need 60 Regalia to reach -50% Def with Herc, and 120 Regalia to overcap. However, overcapping isn't a bad thing - debuffs do get resisted, after all.
2. Herc being faster than the rest of your team isn't necessarily a bad thing either. Herc can be so fast that you solo Burst with Herc and still make it for a Full Burst! I often do this myself in AQ5 on teams that are low on debuffs.

Overall, Dartagnan is just so damn weak when compared to Herc (and this is before we talk about how bad defensive Soul weapons are compared to offensive ones). Only run Dartagnan if you absolutely, ABSOLUTELY have to, such as Thunder teams that don't have access to SSR Baal/Mammon.

-- And Ryu-oh already has a reputation of below average accuracy with her debuffs (I don't have her so I can't speak from experience). Using her off-element is probably not advised.

As somebody who has run Ryu-Oh for ages, can confirm. For A type debuffs, she's piss poor. C type debuffs seem to have a univerally low hitrate just because they're AoE, I guess. Anyway.

For Ryu-Oh to hit 100%, she needs:
1. 6% Affliction from Accessories
2. Elemental advantage
Most A typers only need one of the above. In addition, Ryu-Oh's BP also needs VoF as a third requirement for 100%, which means it really has an awful hitrate.

On a side note, I used to run Ryu-Oh in my Fire just because I literally had no fourth decent Fire Hime. It worked out alright, but running four decent Fire Hime is certainly better.