The "which Soul should I use?" thread

[trew]

Hello.

Right now I'm trying to unlock souls to gather bonuses and I would like feedback to now which order should I take to the ones I don't have.

I have:
standard: all but van hellsing and crowley
Elite: All but gawain, asmund and cagliosto
Legendary: I only have hercules and andromeda.

Right now, the HSP are for shingen, but I don't have enough and it will take a while...
But I have 620 SP and I can unlock some more. Both standards and some legendari (dartagnan, joan of arc, siegfried).

Any reccomendations about which one should I prioritize?

My team is fire (uriel, svarog (aw), mars, bryhildr), with herc.

[Keyen]

In my very limited experience, I would say either D'Artagnan, so you can unlock sniper shot and get a better farming soul overall, or Mordred, if Black propaganda is required.

Since D'Artagnan is directly unlockable in your case (you need 180 more sp for Mordred), I would recommand the former over the latter, but I may be wrong.



Edit: I will also post my question about the "which soul should I use". New player, with Belial so currently Fire focused, with Ryu-oh on the side. First, I unlocked Hercules because everyone said it was a powerhouse and she really is. Then, I unlocked D'Artagnan for Sniper shot (on Hercules) and maybe try to get the bonus drop when farming. Currently, my fire team is Agni/Hephaestus/Raguel/Brynhildr.

Basically, debuff wise, I'm at ~35% def debuff and 35% attack debuff.

I will also be more or less able to buy a soul weapon soon, and that's when I started thinking. If instead of Hercules with the axe, I run D'artagnan with the HP gun and ryu oh, I can immediately cap both the def and attack debuff (meaning I will take 23% less damage overall from bosses and do 30% more damage), I get the black propaganda effect, and I can use more or less anyone (since the major debuffs are covered at max effect) instead of currently mandatory Hephaestus + Raguel (Raguel has a good punch against raging enemy, but Hepha is quite meh out of her debuff, since Brunhildr has already a A-frame attack buff). I mean, I guess it's not really useful currently since I have no one to use instead, but maybe in the futur?

Or I should just get this hercules axe, don't ever use Ryu-oh on a fire team, get the def debuff on burst (which apply after her own burst I guess?) and switch between 40% (Axe + Hepha), 45% (Axe + Sniper shot) or a way overcapped 60% (Axe + hepha + sniper shot), and call it a day? The main problem I have with that is how the skill effect from the axe is quite "meh" for me right now (Hercules is always way ahead of other burst-gauge wise) while both effects from d'Artagnan gun are useful (the def/attack debuff and the DATA buff).

[Unregistered]

The issue is that without element advantage, your ability to land a debuff suffers. I don't know by how much, but this is noticeable. And Ryu-oh already has a reputation of below average accuracy with her debuffs (I don't have her so I can't speak from experience). Using her off-element is probably not advised.

[Slashley]

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Or I should just get this hercules axe, don't ever use Ryu-oh on a fire team, get the def debuff on burst (which apply after her own burst I guess?) -- or a way overcapped 60% (Axe + hepha + sniper shot), and call it a day? --

This.

Notice two things:
1. The Axe - like all Soul weapons - gains the Burst effect at 1 Star and upgrades at 3 Star. That means you need 60 Regalia to reach -50% Def with Herc, and 120 Regalia to overcap. However, overcapping isn't a bad thing - debuffs do get resisted, after all.
2. Herc being faster than the rest of your team isn't necessarily a bad thing either. Herc can be so fast that you solo Burst with Herc and still make it for a Full Burst! I often do this myself in AQ5 on teams that are low on debuffs.

Overall, Dartagnan is just so damn weak when compared to Herc (and this is before we talk about how bad defensive Soul weapons are compared to offensive ones). Only run Dartagnan if you absolutely, ABSOLUTELY have to, such as Thunder teams that don't have access to SSR Baal/Mammon.

-- And Ryu-oh already has a reputation of below average accuracy with her debuffs (I don't have her so I can't speak from experience). Using her off-element is probably not advised.

As somebody who has run Ryu-Oh for ages, can confirm. For A type debuffs, she's piss poor. C type debuffs seem to have a univerally low hitrate just because they're AoE, I guess. Anyway.

For Ryu-Oh to hit 100%, she needs:
1. 6% Affliction from Accessories
2. Elemental advantage
Most A typers only need one of the above. In addition, Ryu-Oh's BP also needs VoF as a third requirement for 100%, which means it really has an awful hitrate.

On a side note, I used to run Ryu-Oh in my Fire just because I literally had no fourth decent Fire Hime. It worked out alright, but running four decent Fire Hime is certainly better.

[Keyen]

Roger that, Hercules Axe it is x)

[Argo]

My Lights are my main team right now, and I just unlocked Shingen after the Tower Nero event. I remember a long time ago (I don't post here often) that she was recommended for me and I'm wondering if a) that's still the case, and b) what my battle flow should be like.
My team right now is:

Mordred (thought about Herc but I really like Black Propaganda + Sniper Shot, and now I have Shingen to try)
Tsukuyomi 80
Michael Awakened 80
Sol Awakened 80
Eros 80
---------
Frey 70
Atum 70

If Shingen is the way to go, I assume I should work on getting her lance weapon? And what's the best way to use her? With Mordred I've just been dropping the debuffs and going ham on attacks, saving my bursts until the enemy goes into rage and buffing up with Michael before I launch it. But Shingen looks quite a bit different, so I'm wondering precisely when to use her skills and how often I should actually be bursting. I'm a bit scared of dropping BP and SS, so I need some convincing.

And while I'm at it, I feel a bit iffy about Frey and Atum in the back. I also have Santa Satan as the last of my light SSRs, but I don't think she's that great. Are there any SRs or even Rs I should consider running instead?

[Unregistered]

Trying to build my water team for next UE

SSR:
Ryu-Oh
Aphrodite
Neptune

SR:
Belphegor
Atalanta
Phoibe
Pruflas
Oceanus
Noden
Nike
Kikurihime
(and some not worth mentioning....)

My thought was Herc?
RyuOh has cover a lot of debuff so i think going Joan is quite some waste

Decision please?

[Slashley]

As long as you bring Ryu-Oh and Atalanta, anyone can work for you (with Sniper Shot). It is difficult to say how strong you are overall, so the answer is probably Shingen/Herc/Joan. Leftmost being for the strongest (perfect Water Glaive Grids with Shingen and Aphrodite are really strong) and the rightmost being for the weakest (Joan's damage cut can be invaluable to weaker players who struggle to survive Overdrives).