[Event 63] Crucible of Combat vs The Demon Pride

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Originally Posted by Gludateton

It is worth it, but question is whether you have enough Ori and Holy Stars to FLB all UE weapons (25 Holy Stars per UE FLB is no joke). I would say that Axe should be priority for FLB (unless you use Shingen's Bow, which as far I can see you don't).

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fot now i have 160 holy stars and 12 Ori
will get more holy star soon as i need a lot of runes for both LB and doing layer 4, i'm kinda out of runes in most elements now lol

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

It would crank up healing to further hilarious levels.
Is it worth it? Depends, how much ori do you have to spare? Have you already planned out how much ori you definitely will be using by X point in time versus your estimated ori income over that time?

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i didn't put much of a thought as of which weapons i want to FLB and how much it would cost, as for now i could clear all mission in GO without any problem, so it's kinda..err...5 every 2 weeks?
i know that i want to FLB advent weapons and dark+wind UE weapons for sure, aside of it? not sure what to do lol

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Originally Posted by Slashley

Why would you ever not? It's 15% Assault, plus bonus on HP lost. Plus increase in heals.

Until you have a full FLB Light grid, you don't really have a choice.

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so according to you, every pride weapon should get awakened 'cause of their effect?
even the fire one that have rush as 2nd skill?

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Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

so according to you, every pride weapon should get awakened 'cause of their effect?
even the fire one that have rush as 2nd skill?

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If you have enough materials and don't have better weapons ? Yes, because why not ?
It's 15% assault + 1% per 5% HP lost and additional DA chance.
I think people that don't FLB wrath bows either have better weapons, or think it's just not worth the materials/hassle of lvling it to 30 slvl.

When you're at the point where you have everything maxed, you have to start going for even the small gains if you want to strengthen that team. You can replace the xmas sword and Sol's gun. The staff will be a damage gain from swapping with the xmas sword, better stat values and assault values. The axe would be replacing sol's gun unless you can get enough copies to final break that.

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Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

so according to you, every pride weapon should get awakened 'cause of their effect?
even the fire one that have rush as 2nd skill?

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Yes. Again, until you have a full FLB grid, it's not even a contest. Once you ARE approaching a full FLB grid... well, the Staff is probably one of the weakest ones. But just how long until you get there? Probably over a year unless you have like five MLB SSR Hime weapons.

Also, Rush has a bad reputation, but it isn't bad. People should stop trying to avoid it...

Wrath bow still gets FLB'd, yea. That's in the context of 'it won't be pushed out by other fire event SSRs for a long time'.

When is the interesting question, naturally. We are bound by ori and stars after all. Definitely look ahead to get a rough idea of what gets FLB when and do some casual planning.
Advent-wise, you want to set aside 2 (or 4) ori in ~end of December (Rahab), ~mid to late February (Typhon), ~mid April (Vritra), ~end of May/beginning of June (Mastema), ~end of July (Garuda), and ~mid to late October (Yatagarasu).
Union event, you want to set aside 3 ori/25 stars for each weapon for ~mid January (Envy) and ~end of January/beginning of February (Lust).

For the other elements? There are two ways to sort out priority. One is sorting by which 2nd skill you want. The other is by sorting by how much help do the other elements need.

Oh, and if your ori income rate outpaces what you could possibly spend (presumably from being bottlenecked by stars), the ori exchange does exist. Maybe you've got some partially completed old raid weapons worth finishing up. If we ever get them, some of the exchange exclusive weapons can be viable medium term filler due to being dual skill, despite their inferior stats. Again, this assumes surplus ori. But hey, if you can keep up the 5 ori every 2 weeks, it's something to keep in back of your mind.

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Originally Posted by Gludateton

If you have enough materials and don't have better weapons ? Yes, because why not ?
It's 15% assault + 1% per 5% HP lost and additional DA chance.
I think people that don't FLB wrath bows either have better weapons, or think it's just not worth the materials/hassle of lvling it to 30 slvl.

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rather than hassle getting them to SL30, it's about the cost of FLB union weapons as i'm currently running out of runes and may run out of stars too after some more FLB.
so wasn't sure if i should bother with weapon that have DA over other union weapons that have better 2nd skills

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Originally Posted by Aidoru

When you're at the point where you have everything maxed, you have to start going for even the small gains if you want to strengthen that team. You can replace the xmas sword and Sol's gun. The staff will be a damage gain from swapping with the xmas sword, better stat values and assault values. The axe would be replacing sol's gun unless you can get enough copies to final break that.

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i'm far from being able to MLB any of my light kami weapons, so dount i can do much with michael, sol or tsukuyomi weapons at this point.
so i guess that like you say, i have to start going for even small gains to make my light grid stronger

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Originally Posted by Slashley

Yes. Again, until you have a full FLB grid, it's not even a contest. Once you ARE approaching a full FLB grid... well, the Staff is probably one of the weakest ones. But just how long until you get there? Probably over a year unless you have like five MLB SSR Hime weapons.

Also, Rush has a bad reputation, but it isn't bad. People should stop trying to avoid it...

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yea, i wish i would have that much MLB SSR hime weapons waiting for their FLB to come out lol
but, i heard that rush have really low chance to work to begin with, wasn't for if it's worth and ori and holy star invested to FLB all the copies

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wrath bow still gets FLB'd, yea. That's in the context of 'it won't be pushed out by other fire event SSRs for a long time'.

When is the interesting question, naturally. We are bound by ori and stars after all. Definitely look ahead to get a rough idea of what gets FLB when and do some casual planning.
Advent-wise, you want to set aside 2 (or 4) ori in ~end of December (Rahab), ~mid to late February (Typhon), ~mid April (Vritra), ~end of May/beginning of June (Mastema), ~end of July (Garuda), and ~mid to late October (Yatagarasu).
Union event, you want to set aside 3 ori/25 stars for each weapon for ~mid January (Envy) and ~end of January/beginning of February (Lust).

For the other elements? There are two ways to sort out priority. One is sorting by which 2nd skill you want. The other is by sorting by how much help do the other elements need.

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i would most likely FLB 2 copies of advent weapons as all my teams needs more HP.
as for union weapons, i would surely FLB the new ones with large assault asn exceed as 2nd skill, probably the pride weapons too
other than that? i don't have MLB kami weapons waiting to get FLB, the closer ones are odin and satan's weapon at 2* (ares is FLB though)
and for them (or other SSR kami weapon) i have that item that can LB SSR weapon, which i used for ares axe too.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh, and if your ori income rate outpaces what you could possibly spend (presumably from being bottlenecked by stars), the ori exchange does exist. Maybe you've got some partially completed old raid weapons worth finishing up. If we ever get them, some of the exchange exclusive weapons can be viable medium term filler due to being dual skill, despite their inferior stats. Again, this assumes surplus ori. But hey, if you can keep up the 5 ori every 2 weeks, it's something to keep in back of your mind.

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i do have the thunder hammer from jorm event at 2*, but i don't want to waste ori for a weapon that will most likely won't get FLB.
i'll rather just stack them in case i can MLB kami weapons in case i can MLB some of them.

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Originally Posted by CaptainNoobCN

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but, i heard that rush have really low chance to work to begin with, --

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The reason why Rush has such bad rep is because Japs noticed that "omg Brahma Dbl+ getting dispelled makes her hit Trpl almost every turn, so having too much Dbl+ means that you lower Trpl rate!!!!!11"

... which is probably true and due to bad coding, but it's basically impossible to reach such a stage. As a result I don't think Rush has really been tested at all, since the DMM wiki claims Rush and Barrage as about the same %. Which is unlikely to be true.

I am utterly baffled at how DMM players still seem to avidly avoid Rush despite living in a meta where reaching 100% Comborate should be absolutely fucking magnificent. We have to remember that the closer you are to 100%, the better Dbl+ and Trpl+ gets - so for us, pre-Tiara set bonus, Rush is probably quite meh. But later down the line when you can stack a literal fuckton of Combo+, getting those last % will be so damn good.

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Originally Posted by Slashley

The reason why Rush has such bad rep is because Japs noticed that "omg Brahma Dbl+ getting dispelled makes her hit Trpl almost every turn, so having too much Dbl+ means that you lower Trpl rate!!!!!11"

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I mean the way it works make sense (both dispelling DA debuff and lowering DA rate makes triple higher), that's how guaranteed things should work.
As for whole 'DA is rolled before TA' thing, it needs additional checking, because it's hard to say how things works when combined DATA exceeds 100% (does it rolls TA first, DA first, or is it scaled to 100%).
I think the biggest problem is rush added DA chance is probably too low, but it doesn't make it bad nevertheless.