Thread: [Event 63] Crucible of Combat vs The Demon Pride

Originally Posted by Gludateton

I mean the way it works make sense (both dispelling DA debuff and lowering DA rate makes triple higher), that's how guaranteed things should work.

To my understanding it doesn't guarantee Triple. Just "most of the time" which implies that the coding is literally double first, triple after, and normal attacks last (probably set to 100%, but a portion of that usually gets bumped out of range).

Originally Posted by QXZ

since UE is coming right up, anyone wanna do a public service and test out the 100DA vs 100TA from those grail bonuses?

DMM wiki has listed those values for months. It's 25% Double and 10% Triple at 100 values. So Dbl > Trpl.

Originally Posted by Slashley

To my understanding it doesn't guarantee Triple. Just "most of the time" which implies that the coding is literally double first, triple after, and normal attacks last (probably set to 100%, but a portion of that usually gets bumped out of range).

My short testing (74 attacks) for Ares AW with Awakened Tit buff would imply that it is actually scaled to 100%. That is assuming that skills percentages from JP wiki are right and that Ares' assist stacks with Tit buff.
Those result would mean that indeed above raising DA after aquiring 100% DATA lowers change for TA (not by full value of increase though).

Originally Posted by Gludateton

My short testing (74 attacks) for Ares AW with Awakened Tit buff would imply that it is actually scaled to 100%. That is assuming that skills percentages from JP wiki are right and that Ares' assist stacks with Tit buff.
Those result would mean that indeed above raising DA after aquiring 100% DATA lowers change for TA (not by full value of increase though).

While that is a good idea and has promising results, the sample size is wayyyyy too tiny to even begin being reliable. You'd need like 500 at the very least, and preferably thousands...

Anyway, going by DMM numbers, Awakened Ares is... uh... 40% Double and 20% Triple when under Fire? And Awakened Titania should be 50% Double and 30% Triple. At the very least, you can easily see if they stack - if you haven't had a non-combo attack from Ares yet, then it's very likely that they stack. According to your theory, 90% Double and 50% Triple should result in... ~64% Double and ~36% Triple?

Curious. Very curious. Do keep me updated on that.

Originally Posted by Slashley

While that is a good idea and has promising results, the sample size is wayyyyy too tiny to even begin being reliable. You'd need like 500 at the very least, and preferably thousands...

Anyway, going by DMM numbers, Awakened Ares is... uh... 40% Double and 20% Triple when under Fire? And Awakened Titania should be 50% Double and 30% Triple. At the very least, you can easily see if they stack - if you haven't had a non-combo attack from Ares yet, then it's very likely that they stack. According to your theory, 90% Double and 50% Triple should result in... ~64% Double and ~36% Triple?

Curious. Very curious. Do keep me updated on that.

Actually there's also one accessory with 2% DA, so it's basically 92% double and 50% triple. Result is more or 46 DA and 28 TA (62.16/37.84). Even that small sample says that rolling DA first (92%) is nigh impossible and rolling TA first (50%) is highly unprobable. I'd need to check whether Tit buff doesn't overwrite Ares' assist, but it shouldn't.

I guess my light grid will be finally completed after Pride UE...

Ok, I'm confused. I've cleared the expert "Lilim Battle" a couple times thanks to help from players far stronger than I am. Each time there have been grails in the item list, but the quest page still says I have 0 of them? Also for rewards it says my number of expert clears is still 0, which I'm guessing means it only counts "Demon Battle"s, but that whole tab seems to be unusable?

Originally Posted by BMLlednar

Ok, I'm confused. I've cleared the expert "Lilim Battle" a couple times thanks to help from players far stronger than I am. Each time there have been grails in the item list, but the quest page still says I have 0 of them? Also for rewards it says my number of expert clears is still 0, which I'm guessing means it only counts "Demon Battle"s, but that whole tab seems to be unusable?

Grails can only used by officers and above within your union. And yes, expert clears is referring to the amount of expert demons you have defeated, as oppose to expert lilims.