Thread: [Event 65] Raid Event vs Tartarus

I wouldn't put it near GO level, which is exactly my point.

Dying in GO is to be expected, that content is still quite difficult. But trying to solo an expert raid and seeing a near fail is clearly an issue, especially when I can solo some catastrophe fights and even clear GO with the right light team setups.

Granted my wind team isn't as strong as it needs to be, cause 55% assault is low on the level of content we have now. But even then, I have a team centered around burst where they can pull it off in as early as 3 turns (4 with PF) due to wind rami's buffs so to see them get smited within 2 nukes from the boss is a little disheartening and also shows that something isn't right. One run with the wind team seen all but two killed off but the light R team can win with no more than two killed off.. and that's considering my light team had a grid with all but two weapons at skill lv30 or 20 (and those two are still at slv15).

Hell, I think even fire would have a better shot given their grid is around 90% assault...

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

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Hell, I think even fire would have a better shot given their grid is around 90% assault...

If only there was a calculator out there which told you how much damage each of your teams do, and how well they can take damage...

Oh wait. I think I made one ages ago. Huh.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

Dying in GO is to be expected, that content is still quite difficult. But trying to solo an expert raid and seeing a near fail is clearly an issue, especially when I can solo some catastrophe fights and even clear GO with the right light team setups.

Here I would agree, hence my first reply stating "I hope you are talking about expert".

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

Dying in GO is to be expected

wind team

55% assault

fire

90% assault

... there's your reason why.

Originally Posted by MagicSpice

plus if i'm dying to a non-GO/catastrophe fight (especially being someone that's played since the game's release), something's wrong here...

That's just AAB prevention mechanic dev put in place that would make a raid event more challenging. Although most of the vets are just going to aab the experts anyway. 4m total HP is not a lot.

If you expect to die in GO, how are you clearing "all survive" challenge ~~ not getting the last ori is a no-go.

Also shingen --->wind burst team --->but no lance? get some hero weapons, those things are shamazing for a reason.

Originally Posted by LeCrestfallen

If you expect to die in GO, how are you clearing "all survive" challenge ~~ not getting the last ori is a no-go.

Also shingen --->wind burst team --->but no lance? get some hero weapons, those things are shamazing for a reason.

considering my light team is overpowered, working on both a shingen weapon for wind and either an arthur or herc one for fire (depends on if that 40% atk buff with svarog's stackable one makes a strong combo or not).

and no, i'm not expecting to die in GO, but I am saying it could happen... look below to see how strong my light team is and add on the fact that Crom Go still nearly wiped them out (but Jorg GO was a cakewalk...). and that's with managarmr as a friend and even a light kaiser in the sub slots

Originally Posted by Shieun

That's just AAB prevention mechanic dev put in place that would make a raid event more challenging. Although most of the vets are just going to aab the experts anyway. 4m total HP is not a lot.

depends on the grid and the eidolons on-hand.

assuming every fight has a friend 100% eidolon, i'm still working with a 40% wind one as a main...

even then, my light team is in the same situation with fire/dark being in a better one at 60%. the difference is grids.

Wind and dark grids are sitting about at 55% assault.... wind can get high burst and even buff it with PF.... but only has hastur and cybele to really do any def debuffs. dark on the other hand can hit the debuff cap... can even swap out Susanoo for Osiris if I wish considering i got thanatos, SSR amon, and chernabog. others include nepthys and awakened satan.

Fire can go further being able to use a lot of buffs, get the same if not stronger debuffs than wind (not including the wind 100% eidolon if summoned), but has a grid of.... 90%ish assault, nearly double than wind.... their SSR list is svarog, amaterasu, yamaraja, dakki, ares, and acala, but i got heph as well.

and my light team... just the assault alone is creeping near 127%.... but add on that they have the only relic weapon i've gotten (so 30% more elemental attack really giving me 70% on hand at all times from my stuff alone). They can hit debuff cap too on def, and viably use PF due to how herc's axe works... then add on the fact that they have Diana, Tsukiyomi, Sol (awakened), Raphael, Michael, Frey, Vishnu, Shamash, Metatron, and now Atum (just rolled her). they have the most SSR (by sheer luck) among all my teams and have a good range of buffs and debuffs...


depending on the team, that 4mil can be a lot or a little... wind has elemental advantage, but just barely passes dark, falls just shy of fire, and is completely eclipsed by my light team's damage...

never really mentioned anything about water and thunder though. water is obvious, but also these two teams have quite a crap selection so... i might make them collect dust...

Originally Posted by Gludateton

Fair enough. There are some easy rags (Tiamat) or harder ones (Barong IMO) though.
My point still is that I generally wouldn't put them below GO at difficulty scale. Most veteran players clear GO without problems. Hell, even f2p players playing for about 6 months can do it.

Just cleared Barong on Light GO today with elemental advantage and 110% dark eidolon. First GO clear. Yay!!! Been playing for about four months and using a multi-elemental grid with a few dark soul points here and there. Just read about special triggers on this forum and then tried to decipher what the Jp Wiki was saying about Barong. Not sure if I just got lucky but as long as you hold back on the debuffs it should be fine.

Originally Posted by lalala

Just cleared Barong on Light GO today with elemental advantage and 110% dark eidolon. First GO clear. Yay!!! Been playing for about four months and using a multi-elemental grid with a few dark soul points here and there. Just read about special triggers on this forum and then tried to decipher what the Jp Wiki was saying about Barong. Not sure if I just got lucky but as long as you hold back on the debuffs it should be fine.

Don't use blue skills.

Any other colour skill which deals debuff does not activate her trigger.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Don't use blue skills.

Any other colour skill which deals debuff does not activate her trigger.

Hmm... that's interesting. Not sure if I want to risk trying it out though.