Thread: [Event 70] Raid Event vs Iwanaga-Hime

Exceed isn't useful

Hold your horses.



You do realise it's not just burst cap up but also burst dmg up right? Assault S exceed S is infinitely better than assault M.

Burst cap

No matter which buff, all single bursts are absolutely capped at 2m dmg, after which the 90% dmg nerf applies. The only known hime to ignore this cap so far is Meta AW, when she bursts at 0 countdown.

Originally Posted by Cobblemaniac

Hold your horses.



You do realise it's not just burst cap up but also burst dmg up right? Assault S exceed S is infinitely better than assault M.



No matter which buff, all single bursts are absolutely capped at 2m dmg, after which the 90% dmg nerf applies. The only known hime to ignore this cap so far is Meta AW, when she bursts at 0 countdown.

My bad. I'm still kind of a newb (which is why I was asking in the first place). I didn't know that Exceed actually also increased the burst cap in addition to increasing burst damage.

Remind me Assault S will be 0% + 0.5% per sklvl, while Assault M will be 3% + 0.5% per sklvl?

Dejnov.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

My bad. I'm still kind of a newb (which is why I was asking in the first place). I didn't know that Exceed actually also increased the burst cap in addition to increasing burst damage.

Remind me Assault S will be 0% + 0.5% per sklvl, while Assault M will be 3% + 0.5% per sklvl?

Dejnov.

Final values are 10 and 13% respectively at SL20.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

My bad. I'm still kind of a newb (which is why I was asking in the first place). I didn't know that Exceed actually also increased the burst cap in addition to increasing burst damage.

Remind me Assault S will be 0% + 0.5% per sklvl, while Assault M will be 3% + 0.5% per sklvl?

Dejnov.

Sacrifice 3% assault for 10% exceed is not a bad deal

Assuming someone also has Uriel (unlike me), that SR weapon should benefit them even more...

not rlly since uriel can reast the burst cap without it.. also another reason burst power accessories are redundant

Originally Posted by Kitty

-- also another reason burst power accessories are redundant

It's more because Burst damage is a "either if" choice there. I mean, if we compare a SR Assault 13% with SR Assault+Exceed which is 10% Assault, 30% Burst damage and 200k more cap, it's not a bad deal.

Meanwhile, in (non-Ancient rolls) Accessories, it's 3% Assault vs. 5% Burst damage. Why wouldn't you always rather want Assault which works every turn, instead of only on your Burst turns? Not to mention that it's not a "burst damage * 1.05", it's "burst damage modifier + 0.05" which for SSRs who already have 500%, won't make much of a difference. In fact, the 3% Assault is very likely to be more damage on your Bursts than 5% Burst modifier. I can't be bothered to run the maths, but let's say that should always hold true at least with PF on SSRs.

Having Uriel means no need exceed

Uh, a single hime's requirements does not dictate an entire team's.

Additionally, you will not be getting max stacks on Uriel in raids before going for FB, and before you say GO and AQ, those are things, but you will be using Uriel in raids. And no reasonable team waits for 10T to throw their burst.