Thread: Gacha rates data

I'm really interested in the gacha rate of this game (who doesn't) and find out Sanahtlig already make a thread to collect and analysis the gacha data when the game released here, but it's almost 2 year, the gacha pool has changed completely with SSR himeless weapon removed, new kamihimes, new eidolons and there are 100% Eidolons that everyone believed to have much more lower rate than anything in the pool. That data is already outdated and isn't a reliable reference source anymore. Most argument about gacha rate recently is just assumption.
So I think I should collect the new data sometime and finaly I have some free time to set up an auto reroll macro. The first 500 accounts aka 10000 rolls is done, not much work done in analysis part, just calculated the basic rate.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing


Raw data: https://drive.google.com/drive/folde...a6?usp=sharing
The data were collected during the "New Year limied edition character drop rate increased"


As I thought the SSR kami and eido rate isn't 50:50, but isn't correspond to the number of SSR kami and Eido either.
Over 10000 roll I only found 7 100% eidolon and still missing the light one so the rate of 100% eido isn't reliable and need bigger sample size.
Todo list:
Add 10000 more rolls when the next rate up is up.
Count the number drop of the current rate up SSR, SR, R kami.
Count the number drop of each SSR kami, SSR eidolon.

Anyone want to add more gacha roll or analysis the data or make better sheet feel free to request a permission to edit the sheet here as I'm not good at this.
Also, 500 rerolled accounts available to giveaway so if any new player want to skip some reroll, just surf through the raw data, find one you want and pm your email so I can send a change email request (2 pic with the same number belong to one account). There is 7 100% eido all most of the SSR kami in here so good luck.

Originally Posted by nut

Over 10000 roll I only found 7 100% eidolon and still missing the light one .

Welp.

Thanks for your contribution!

shit someone almost rerolled as much as me what a lad. i think i got a lot more than 7 100% eidos, tho.

5 belials, 4 rudras, 3 hraes, 4 mana, 1 kirin and 0 anubis lmao

Originally Posted by Kitty

shit someone almost rerolled as much as me what a lad. i think i got a lot more than 7 100% eidos, tho.

5 belials, 4 rudras, 3 hraes, 4 mana, 1 kirin and 0 anubis lmao

Are the Managarmr accounts still around? Or were they given out?

Originally Posted by nut

I'm really interested in the gacha rate of this game (who doesn't) and find out Sanahtlig already make a thread to collect and analysis the gacha data when the game released here, but it's almost 2 year, the gacha pool has changed completely with SSR himeless weapon removed, new kamihimes, new eidolons and there are 100% Eidolons that everyone believed to have much more lower rate than anything in the pool. That data is already outdated and isn't a reliable reference source anymore. Most argument about gacha rate recently is just assumption.--

Correct. Much thanks for your hard work.


At the moment, it seems that on average it costs... 4 285 714 Jewels per P2W Eidolon? 3 000 Jewels / 0,0007.
Of course, this number could be VERY wrong since the sample size is still small considering the low droprate.

Another very interesting tidbit is that Hime and Eidolons are about 1.8:1 in ratio - significantly better than 1:1. I hope that you'll be able to distinguish between SR Hime weapons and SR himeless weapons in the future so that we could use that data as possible reference - has the system changed?

Originally Posted by reveril

Are the Managarmr accounts still around? Or were they given out?

last one I had was mana/shamash and i gave that away to a guy thats now in my union, kek

btw, nut, i was wondering how you do your rerolls? do you make them and then log on them after a while to collect built up jews then draw more? or just use the initial 6K .

bc heres an example of one of mine from november 2017 with a buncha jews built up..ones from summer 2017 had like 13-14k

Originally Posted by Kitty

btw, nut, i was wondering how you do your rerolls? do you make them and then log on them after a while to collect built up jews then draw more? or just use the initial 6K .

bc heres an example of one of mine from november 2017 with a buncha jews built up..ones from summer 2017 had like 13-14k

That was the initial 6k so 500 account equal to 10000 rolls, I made a macro to sign up->skip tutorial->using direct link to skip login bonus->collect gift->roll the 3k jewels and take screenshot twice.

With the rate of 1 account every 2 minute, I can make 500 account within a day, but tranfer the number from the screenshot to the sheet is time consuming and easy to mistake when do in large amount so I made around 100 accounts at once and stop at 500 to make another 500 when the pool and rate up change.

Originally Posted by Slashley

Correct. Much thanks for your hard work.


At the moment, it seems that on average it costs... 4 285 714 Jewels per P2W Eidolon? 3 000 Jewels / 0,0007.
Of course, this number could be VERY wrong since the sample size is still small considering the low droprate.

Another very interesting tidbit is that Hime and Eidolons are about 1.8:1 in ratio - significantly better than 1:1. I hope that you'll be able to distinguish between SR Hime weapons and SR himeless weapons in the future so that we could use that data as possible reference - has the system changed?

3000 Jewels is 10 chain, so it is 300/0.07% ~ 428571 Jewels atm. Seem affordable as my union mate has around 170k jewels and 300 ticket save in one year.

I didn't check but I think the amount of SR himeless weapon is quite large so distinguish between SR Hime weapons and SR himeless will be a hard job.

Oh right, so it's not 10 000 10-rolls, but 1 000 10-ten rolls. That makes P2W Eidolons ~428 571 Jewels.

ahh i see, i honestly haven't made any rerolls in over a year just because i'm still finding old ones that i can re-log into and collect even more jewels than i would get from making a totally new account. ..also i'm dumb and read it wrong i thought you made over 10k accounts oof

also that sounds crazy 500 accounts in a day lmao i guess you have made more than me *sobs*