AQ5 thread

[Slashley]

The person that ran that test hasn't gotten hit by the normal overdrive. And my team is too strong to test as well.... perhaps I can try with an alt account or something.

Just tone your team down. I tested even the 20 turn thing just because I could.

... that team didn't fare well against Wave3, sure, but hey! SCIENCE.

[SlickFenix]

That's why I'll run an alt. I can let it fail for science.

[QXZ]

FYI - you can easily tank the boss with a kaiser + elemental RST from a hime/soul + DEF buff from hime/soul + 50% ATK debuff

also, Joan is not required for this, but she would obviously make this easily achievable.

[Slashley]

FYI - you can easily tank the boss with a kaiser --

Here is your problem #1. How many people have all six Kaisers?

+ elemental RST from a hime/soul--

Problem #2. No Soul has elemental Resist buffs. So which Hime from Gem Gacha have this? Or how about SRs that have it for all elements?

+ DEF buff from hime/soul --

Def buff does basically nothing against high numbers like these. Mind you, Def buffs don't add up to damage cuts. If you have 90% damage cut and 20% Def up, it's basically the same as 91% damage cut. Is that less damage taken than with 90% damage cut? Yes it is. But not by much, and probably won't be enough.

Def up is a pretty damn bad buff, honestly. I'll gladly take them in Accessories, but that's about it.

+ 50% ATK debuff

Yup, though getting to 50% might be a problem for some people. 40%ish is easily possible, though. But if we go with 90% damage cut again, 50% Atk debuff is the same as 95% damage cut.


All in all, rather than rely on elemental Resist buffs which are only on specific, few Hime, it's better to just stack damage cuts. But even those aren't THAT common to "easily tank" the boss if you ask me. Or would you like to explain exactly how one can easily achieve this?

[SlickFenix]

All in all, rather than rely on elemental Resist buffs which are only on specific, few Hime, it's better to just stack damage cuts. But even those aren't THAT common to "easily tank" the boss if you ask me. Or would you like to explain exactly how one can easily achieve this?

Whale!!

[Ikki]

All in all, rather than rely on elemental Resist buffs which are only on specific, few Hime, it's better to just stack damage cuts. But even those aren't THAT common to "easily tank" the boss if you ask me. Or would you like to explain exactly how one can easily achieve this?

It's just another option for those who have the tools for it, assuming no one has nothing is kinda dumb at this point, its an AQ5 thread after all.

[Cobblemaniac]

Here is your problem #1. How many people have all six Kaisers?Problem #2. No Soul has elemental Resist buffs. So which Hime from Gem Gacha have this? Or how about SRs that have it for all elements?Def buff does basically nothing against high numbers like these. Mind you, Def buffs don't add up to damage cuts. If you have 90% damage cut and 20% Def up, it's basically the same as 91% damage cut. Is that less damage taken than with 90% damage cut? Yes it is. But not by much, and probably won't be enough.

Def up is a pretty damn bad buff, honestly. I'll gladly take them in Accessories, but that's about it.Yup, though getting to 50% might be a problem for some people. 40%ish is easily possible, though. But if we go with 90% damage cut again, 50% Atk debuff is the same as 95% damage cut.


All in all, rather than rely on elemental Resist buffs which are only on specific, few Hime, it's better to just stack damage cuts. But even those aren't THAT common to "easily tank" the boss if you ask me. Or would you like to explain exactly how one can easily achieve this?

Joan relic.

Which honestly is worth the regalia for most ppl in this forum.

[Slashley]

It's just another option for those who have the tools for it, assuming no one has nothing is kinda dumb at this point, its an AQ5 thread after all.

While true, the annoying thing about damage cuts is that more and more commonly it's on the Resist side of things. Which will only apply for for one element. You might get enough for one or two elements - but will you get a full set?

Joan relic.

Which honestly is worth the regalia for most ppl in this forum.

If you need the Joan Soul weapon, then you're lacking in damage output. If you bring a HP Soul weapon, you're really not helping that problem. Even if you get yourself four more turns... will that be enough to make it?

[Gludateton]

While true, the annoying thing about damage cuts is that more and more commonly it's on the Resist side of things. Which will only apply for for one element. You might get enough for one or two elements - but will you get a full set?

And why exactly it has to be either "kill Andro fast with all elements" or "defend from Andro overdrive with all elements" ? Different elements may require different tactics for some people, it's not required to have resist in all elements but in one when you need it.

If you need the Joan Soul weapon, then you're lacking in damage output. If you bring a HP Soul weapon, you're really not helping that problem. Even if you get yourself four more turns... will that be enough to make it?

Five.
Also while I do agree that just killing Andro fast is easiest strategy for most people, different ones can work too.
Like for example:
1. Joan + Snow Raphy. 90% damage cut against all with 6T cd, add damage cut eido for nice 100% damage cut and you defended from overdrive once however many times you like if Raphy hits with orb eat.
2. Joan + Athena. 100% damage cut against water with 6T cd, you need to add BP to get it done more than once.
3. Joan + Raiko. 90% damage cut against all with 6T cd, need additional 10% and BP.
4. Joan + Gaia. 100% damage cut (with AW you don't even need Soul weapon against thunder), need BP to work more than once.
5. Joan + Bryamaterasu SR Konohana-Sakuya. 90% damage cut against wind with 6T cd, need additional 10% and BP.
There are probably more, those are the ones that I remember.
You can also go with other options of course, those are the ones with Joan. Hell, you can always go full retard mode and ask friend for 20%+ cut eido and get one for yourself, you'll have 100% damage cut with only Joan ! With epic damage like this you'll probably have problems getting to stage 3 though.

[Unregistered]

Before AQ5, SSR accessories for the teams I was running (water and thunder) were so hard to get that i kept all of them, and leveled them to a point. I got a few to lvl 50, but a bunch are sitting somewhere between lvls 30-45.

Now I've expanded a bit and have fire and wind teams, and will probably want to add dark and light at some point. The thing is, it's hard to max more than 1 accessory per week, so It's going to take forever to get my teams full sets of maxed accessories, especially with the slot expansion coming soon. I'm thinking I should keep some of those bad mod high level accessories, just for the stats, since I put so much into leveling them, and it's not too much further to max them.

What I want to do is set a line of demarcation, so that accessories over a certain level are keepers, and ons lower than that can be used as fodder. The question is, where to set the line? I'm thinking somewhere between 35-40. So maybe 38? Is that reasonable, or too high/low?