AQ5 thread

[Dejnov]

The Wiki mentions that Element RSTdown stacks with Damage takendown. The discussion I'm seeing here seems to indicate that they don't stack and you'd actually need the less standard Element damagedown to additively stack. Is this right? The Kaiser Dragoon with Joan can't actually reduce the damage to zero?


Dejnov.

[Gludateton]

Yes it does stack. So for example if you have Joan with her HP Soul weapon and 2 LB Kaiser, it will reduce damage by 100%.
Refer to this post by Slashley: https://harem-battle.club/kamihime-p...tml#post137626
Also for point 4. you can stack eidolons' elemental resistance with Kamihime elemental resistance.

[Slashley]

I checked to see what was considered an "okay" grid. Confused as to what you're referencing to when relating it as okay though. If it's for a newer player, sure. Or before FLBs came out, could be considered an okay grid back then, sure. But AQ5s did come out after FLBs came out after all. And for vet standards currently, I would not consider that as an "okay" grid when there isn't a single FLB in it. I mean that grid has gotten 5 free FLBs right now at the very least (6 or more for those that were there even earlier I guess).

As I said, it's outdated. I didn't play for four months. And means that I missed out on... three months of GO? I haven't even completed a single loop yet. I am horrendously Ori starved, and only my Thunder Grid is properly FLBd.

So, if not having FLBs disqualifies one from an okay Grid, where DOES the "okay Grid" start at? And how exactly is a new player supposed to get their hands on this "okay Grid?" In other words, how many months does it take to get even a single element to this starting point? Again as I said, this is the first content I've come across that you can't clear even though you completed your Grid. Well, I guess Tower15F would also fall under that category.

I used Minotaur at one floor at tower. My union mate (same one that actually told me about whole strategy) used wind cut eido against wind present rag when he didn't have enough power to finish it other way (or so he has said). One uses things that work best in some situation, as popular saying goes: "if something looks stupid but works, it ain't stupid".

And people criticized me for taking a base damage loss from Vine, and now we're having people using Rs as main Eidolons...

But yeah, it's true that those are quite powerful.

That narrow window is the whole point here. Nobody argues here that some strategy is best for everyone and anyone in all situations. Existence of that narrow window should remind you that there exist Souls other than Hercules and Shingen.

There are, like Dartagnan for Thunder with her defensive Soul weapon and Morgan for Wind memes!

But yeah, for a newer player, typically the Soul progression on with what you can clear content with, it goes Mordred -> Joan (BP) -> Hercules/Shingen brute-forcing it. This doesn't directly apply to AQ5 because Wave3 is a very unusual boss on Kamihime standards, though.

The Wiki mentions that Element RSTdown stacks with Damage takendown. The discussion I'm seeing here seems to indicate that they don't stack and you'd actually need the less standard Element damagedown to additively stack. Is this right? The Kaiser Dragoon with Joan can't actually reduce the damage to zero?

As Glud pointed out, but I should probably clean up that post into a single infodump. What stacks in damage cuts:
1. As many normal damage cuts as you want (Joan, Raiko, Snow Raph, Perun, etc.)
2. One Reflect (AoE Reflect is really rare, but some Hime and Souls have them for self, such as Herc)
3. One Hime Elemental Resistance buff (Poseidon, Awakened Gaia, etc.)
4. One Eidolon Elemental Resistance buff (mostly only in SR Kaisers 15%, MLB(?) SR Kaisers 20%, SSR Kaisers 30%)
5. Up to two main Eidolon effects (available in -10% in SSR Eidolons (with 40% Elemental Atk attached) or up to -25% in Rs (with zero offensive power attached)

So uh, why is this not the English wiki since we seem to have one these days? Needed to dig up info from the DMM wiki still.