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    This could also go into Miracle thread but... this thread probably has better experienced people for this question.

    I want to MT for the upcoming Thunder Disaster. Now, that's all the way to June, but eh. It's really rough to properly understand how shit works from reading it up. Like there's no way that I could've realized from text alone how Fire Rag is just "target main boss, AAB and go to sleep, it will die as long as people bring enough debuffs" and Water Rag is just "Bring Andromeda, target add, AAB and go sleep, you'll win after 80+ turns as long as there is a second Andromeda in the raid"

    So yeah, not knowing what Thunder Rag is like, as a full Thunder baka I was thinking of actually manualing those fights. But what kind of a team should I bring?
    My Wind team is Titania, Odin, Gaia, Hastur. Odin and Hastur can both go, really. The question is, with who?
    I see Kitty talking about Isis against Thunder Rag, but since most of the stuff is AoE, does that even help?
    Set for heals? That IS a lot of AoE, but I'm not entirely sure if Set will quite do the job. She'll probably buy a turn or two more, but that's not all that impressive.
    SSR Cybele for just damage output and debuffs? Seems like the safest choice, and the best one until June.
    Azazel would technically be the most future proof one, but with her Awakening all the way to September, I think I'll pass on that for now.
    Aether for Burst memes? Now, Aether was super strong when she came out. And then... then Wind got ALL the Exceeds from Union events. Now, PF+Exceed being at 360%, Aether can "only" give 140%. Heck, that'll go down to 60% just one week after Thunder Rag comes out. RIP Aether.

    So uh, yeah. What are your experiences with Thunder Rag, what would be the best way to approach it?

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    welp the new himes are officially out, but it's too early for info in the wiki so i'll translate them myself.

    SSR Healer [Nefertem] -

    Skill 1: Damage cut for the entire allies (25%) + Burst Gauge UP (7T CD + Effect time 2T)
    Skill 2: Heals all allies (___HP) and cures one affliction to allies (6T CD)
    Skill 3: ATK + DEF of entire enemy DOWN (-30%) (Costs 30 BG) (7T CD + Effect Time 150 Seconds)

    Burst: Dark attribute damage (oversized) + Remove one charging orb.
    Assist: Chance to reduce CD of Skill 2 when damage is taken.

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    holyshit she's amazing.
    too bad she looks eh...

    also... goofy ass lion is goofy but cute.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Aether for Burst memes? Now, Aether was super strong when she came out. And then... then Wind got ALL the Exceeds from Union events. Now, PF+Exceed being at 360%, Aether can "only" give 140%. Heck, that'll go down to 60% just one week after Thunder Rag comes out. RIP Aether.
    Don't go and kill Aether just yet. Using 6 exceed weapons is not exactly optimal (even with wind "less than great" weapon grid) and with fast burst team you won't have PF for every FB. Also don't forget about +20 BG ability, crit buff and EVEN if you really don't want to use burst buff for some reason, she has 15 BG from every attack.
    Some words from Bear also: "When fighting against TCat / Phul, since I burst every 3 to 4 turns, I usually skip PF for every other FB. I need Azazel's buff up as much as possible and to do that, I'm not suppose to wait. There is also Cu AW who also needs to burst as much as she can to keep up her TA buff while GTA is on CD. So many new hime rely on burst effects nowadays to utilize them, you pretty much wanna burst, burst, burst"


    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty View Post
    Skill 3: ATK + DEF of entire enemy DOWN (-30%) (7T CD + Effect Time 150 Seconds)
    And it costs 30 BG.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kitty View Post
    Burst: Small chance to remove one charging orb
    I wonder how could you translate "guaranteed charge orb removal" (必中) to "small chance of orb removal".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gludateton View Post
    I wonder how could you translate "guaranteed charge orb removal" (必中) to "small chance of orb removal".
    my bad, translated it wrong the first time.
    闇属性圧ダメージ(特大)チャージター ンを1つ減少
    just saw that it says decrease charge by one turn, sorry for wrong info. i'll fix it.
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    Oh, you just translated her in game descriptions. The part about guaranteed stuff was in KiyoP comments about new characters, so no wonder you didn't saw that, you couldn't know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gludateton View Post
    Oh, you just translated her in game descriptions. The part about guaranteed stuff was in KiyoP comments about new characters, so no wonder you didn't saw that, you couldn't know.
    How do you access the Japanese forums?

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    Not forums. There's always news with description of new characters, together with comments from some KiyoP guy (you'll have to ask DMM players who the guy is, I don't care). I have DMM account solely to read those game news (about characters and plans for future and whatnot).

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    you know i had to do it to em


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    has at least 1 SSR of each element.

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    Surprised no one here mentioned the 100% eidolon miracle ticket they have over on DMM. First 6 are in there, though it costs 9800 star coins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gludateton View Post
    Some words from Bear also: "When fighting against TCat / Phul, since I burst every 3 to 4 turns, I usually skip PF for every other FB. I need Azazel's buff up as much as possible and to do that, I'm not suppose to wait. There is also Cu AW who also needs to burst as much as she can to keep up her TA buff while GTA is on CD. So many new hime rely on burst effects nowadays to utilize them, you pretty much wanna burst, burst, burst"
    Oh right, skipping PF is a thing. Not a thing for us just yet, but over time. Yeah, that gives a lot more space for Aether to operate in.

    I also forgot all about Cu. Her Awakening comes 1.5 months after Thunder Rag though, I have a feeling the entire server will have moved on to Light Rag at that point.

    Still looking for more input on what Thunder Rag is actually like and what I would need.

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