DMM Players' Kamihime Thread

[dreamlitz]

Just pulled hime guaranted gacha - Aether (dup) and Eros as guaranted roll. Nothing good. Too bad that i don't have jewels for eydo gacha.

Wait, Eros can be awakened on DMM and is very very good against enemies that debuff you - her affliction block turns into affliction absorption that gives you 20 BG. On burst, she can instantly recast the affliction absorption, so with Mike AW and Shingen, you should be bursting every 1-2T against enemies that spam debuffs.

Even before AW, she is a pretty good defensive hime (yeah, she's classified as 'balanced' but she's really a defensive type imo.) I find her incredibly useful in AAB as blocking afflictions is much more reliable than cleansing when you're on AAB.

[Mraktar]

Kitty, graz with Sheeva, she is a top (only Lakshmi outdamages her as i know)

Wait, Eros can be awakened on DMM and is very very good against enemies that debuff you - her affliction block turns into affliction absorption that gives you 20 BG. On burst, she can instantly recast the affliction absorption, so with Mike AW and Shingen, you should be bursting every 1-2T against enemies that spam debuffs.

Even before AW, she is a pretty good defensive hime (yeah, she's classified as 'balanced' but she's really a defensive type imo.) I find her incredibly useful in AAB as blocking afflictions is much more reliable than cleansing when you're on AAB.

I've got Eros on one of my Nutaku accounts and must say that she is not even near a top tier hime (even after aw, there are much, much better options) - her damage is low enough, and, yes, she pretends to be tank- aframe attack debuff, block affliction, shield. ability buff is useless. Definitely not a top priority and unfortunately i don't have Mike - only Tishia and Eros, no single damager, so my light team will be slow anyway so soul should more likely be Herc/Andy then Shingen so i will not be able to spam her s2 anyway. She is a niche hime for debuff spam content like dark ulti with fast team, or something like Medusa rag with mass paralyze, not more. And on dark ulti i would use wind team anyway, because it's much stronger. Frigg can block afflictions too. (about 20% to solo aab it with my wind team)

[Cobblemaniac]

Kitty, graz with Sheeva, she is a top (only Lakshmi outdamages her as i know)



I've got Eros on one of my Nutaku accounts and must say that she is not even near a top tier hime (even after aw, there are much, much better options) - her damage is low enough, and, yes, she pretends to be tank- aframe attack debuff, block affliction, shield. ability buff is useless. Definitely not a top priority and unfortunately i don't have Mike - only Tishia and Eros, no single damager, so my light team will be slow anyway so soul should more likely be Herc/Andy then Shingen so i will not be able to spam her s2 anyway. She is a niche hime for debuff spam content like dark ulti with fast team, or something like Medusa rag with mass paralyze, not more. And on dark ulti i would use wind team anyway, because it's much stronger. Frigg can block afflictions too. (about 20% to solo aab it with my wind team)

So let me get this straight.

Eros AW.

Skill 2 is now a team debuff absorb. You get 20BG if someone throws debuff at you.

Burst completely refreshes skill 2 cd. So you can spam skill 2 as long as you burst.

So you need debuffs to be thrown at you, right? Let's see...

Rags that throw debuff at you:

FRag: nuts. As long as you attack them.
WaRag: debuff almost literally every non ougi turn
WiRag: boss ougi, bottom bug literally every turn
TRag: boss every non ougi turn when red dragon is alive, red dragon raging ougi
LRag: caster and archer normal ougi every 3 turns, archer trigger every 5 turns or whenever you cleanse
DRag: literally every fucking turn

Aratron: every TA past 50% HP
Haggith: every 3 turns normal ougi, every 2 turns raging ougi (paired with Mike and some other sources you can clock 2t burst cycles)
Bethor: every non ougi attack is a fking debuff
Phul: every normal atk on normal gauge drops 1 debuff + trigger
Phaleg: ougi debuffs
Ophiel: ougi debuffs

Oh boi. I wonder, low tier. Do you even study rags...?

Do you literally not see Mike AW v2 right before your very eyes?

[Mraktar]

You need to have a fast enough team to do it (max 4 turns burst cycle). if your team is as slow as mine (Tishia, Eros, 2 sr - Diana + Attar? and no Mike, the only aviable way to speed up is Shingen), you definitely can't spam her s2. It's the same as Diancent - she is as strong as fast your team is.
Yes, Eros + Mike is 40 bg on debuff spam content after burst, but Mike is a key.

[Bear]

Kitty, graz with Sheeva, she is a top (only Lakshmi outdamages her as i know)



I've got Eros on one of my Nutaku accounts and must say that she is not even near a top tier hime (even after aw, there are much, much better options) - her damage is low enough, and, yes, she pretends to be tank- aframe attack debuff, block affliction, shield. ability buff is useless. Definitely not a top priority and unfortunately i don't have Mike - only Tishia and Eros, no single damager, so my light team will be slow anyway so soul should more likely be Herc/Andy then Shingen so i will not be able to spam her s2 anyway. She is a niche hime for debuff spam content like dark ulti with fast team, or something like Medusa rag with mass paralyze, not more. And on dark ulti i would use wind team anyway, because it's much stronger. Frigg can block afflictions too. (about 20% to solo aab it with my wind team)

You're mental.


Did you even read what dream said her kit looks like after AW, in case you didn't bother to look her up at all? Her Affliction Shield is now a BG generator for your whole party. The more debuff you eat the quicker you burst and the quicker you recast the Affliction Shield. Look at all the contents that matter: Catastrophe Water/Wind/Thunder/Dark = spam. Guardians Light/Wind/Fire/Water = spam. Tower = AoE debuff anytime. You are telling me that her Affliction Absorption skill is niche? And that's not accounting to all the upgrades she receive for all her other skills. Ability dmg buff useless? How about Ability Power up? You know the difference right? Her dmg is low? Did you know she can hit well over 800k with her Atk down nuke? Pretending to be tanky? Her upgraded 2000 HP Barrier now only has a mere CD of 5 on top of increased Def buff amount.

Honestly if it weren't for the Affliction Shield's limit she would have been up there with Mike and Azzy as the third gamebreaking AW. You're saying that she's easily replaceable? You're mental.

You need to have a fast enough team to do it (max 4 turns burst cycle). if your team is as slow as mine (Tishia, Eros, 2 sr - Diana + Attar? and no Mike, the only aviable way to speed up is Shingen), you definitely can't spam her s2. It's the same as Diancent - she is as strong as fast your team is.
Yes, Eros + Mike is 40 bg on debuff spam content after burst, but Mike is a key.

Rating her as weak basing on your personal lack in resource/ability to utilize her full potential is the dumbest argument you can ever make. By that logic, Shingen is one of the worst hero you can ever use because she requires a good roster to back her up. Besides, What happened to Shingen's MEX?

[Mraktar]

You're mental.


Did you even read what dream said her kit looks like after AW, in case you didn't bother to look her up at all? Her Affliction Shield is now a BG generator for your whole party. The more debuff you eat the quicker you burst and the quicker you recast the Affliction Shield. Look at all the contents that matter: Catastrophe Water/Wind/Thunder/Dark = spam. Guardians Light/Wind/Fire/Water = spam. Tower = AoE debuff anytime. You are telling me that her Affliction Absorption skill is niche? And that's not accounting to all the upgrades she receive for all her other skills. Ability dmg buff useless? How about Ability Power up? You know the difference right? Her dmg is low? Did you know she can hit well over 800k with her Atk down nuke? Pretending to be tanky? Her upgraded 2000 HP Barrier now only has a mere CD of 5 on top of increased Def buff amount.

Honestly if it weren't for the Affliction Shield's limit she would have been up there with Mike and Azzy as the third gamebreaking AW. You're saying that she's easily replaceable? You're mental.




Rating her as weak basing on your personal lack in resource/ability to utilize her full potential is the dumbest argument you can ever make. By that logic, Shingen is one of the worst hero you can ever use because she requires a good roster to back her up. Besides, What happened to Shingen's MEX?

Ok, i must admit that i definitely was wrong with her. What is Shingen's MEX? I can't understand.
If we would use the logic of my previous post, Shingen is not bad, but niche - she makes fast team even faster and is not so good if a team is too slow and you don't have a lance, while someone like Herc is good in every team, but has much less scaling with team's speed.

[Gludateton]

If we used your logic, it would come to: Shingen "is not even near a top tier" soul "([...] there are much, much better options)".

[Slashley]

-- What is Shingen's MEX? --

He is referring to Encourage Inspiration.

Not sure why people call them MEX. M(P) EX (skill)?

[Itoshira]

MP Extra Skill or Mastery Extra Skill are my guesses on this.

[Kitty]

71M HP feelsgoodman