Thread: Guild Games Megathread

Plus having to redo Accessories is total ass. Since Earrings > Tiara for a mere 2 turn fight.

God, there still are ppl, who strive for top. Let Your mercy flow with them

Originally Posted by Chrestomancy

But each requires the right set of random events to happen.

There actually are low RNG and even zero RNG builds - at the cost of some dmg potential of course. I couldn't figure out a way to run the meta light build for this dummy without having to RNG DATA on one or more himes (and doing it with earrings instead of tiaras.) I ended up going with a build that guarantees the planned burst as long as the right himes are killed off, so it's basically a 1/6 chance of working. Finished all 6 elements with around 40 tries-ish.

I also experimented with a couple of zero RNG builds - just FB on T1 and call it a day

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Originally Posted by Slashley

Tell me about it. Plus having to redo Accessories is total ass. Since Earrings > Tiara for a mere 2 turn fight.

This was enough motivation for me to NOT try for high RNG builds

Also need time to farm Ophiel before the rush is over, she looks like a total pain to do later.

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

This was enough motivation for me to NOT try for high RNG builds

So you say, but you're currently rank#6 in Best and #4 in Total.

Where is the video of a no-RNG run of that then.

Originally Posted by Slashley

So you say, but you're currently rank#6 in Best and #4 in Total.

It can only go down from here though... Last dummy I was top 20 for the first week and fell outside top 20 by the end of it, too (although it looked like i was top 20 the whole time 'cos the rankings weren't updating correctly.)

Where is the video of a no-RNG run of that then.

It's low RNG not no RNG for my real runs, and I'm still debating if I should post the video of my run or not.

Anyway, I did 2B-2B-FB, whereas I'm pretty sure the top rankers for light all did 2B-3B-FB (I actually gave that a few tries for on-element but couldn't get it to work.)

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

-- I'm still debating if I should post the video of my run or not.--

Yes you should.

Alright, here it is. I didn't record off-element runs, but it's exactly the same build. And no salt please, dun make me regret posting the video...

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As long as dummy kills Arthur then kills Tish (should be 1/6 chance of happening 'cos 1/3 for first kill, 1/2 for second kill)), I get the guaranteed 2B-2B-FB. Full explanation is in the video description for those that like walls of text.

Holy shit that damage is insane. You're just casually slamming 2m bursts, don't need no PF buffs or nuffin'

What I don't understand is this:

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

As long as dummy kills Arthur then kills Tish (should be 1/6 chance of happening 'cos 1/3 for first kill, 1/2 for second kill)), --

... since no type of Stealth and similar works on this dummy, what on earth makes those chances to high? Shouldn't it be more like 1/5 and 1/5-ish?

Originally Posted by Slashley

Holy shit that damage is insane. You're just casually slamming 2m bursts, don't need no PF buffs or nuffin'

I actually dun burst that hard in actual raids, 'cos I prefer using high hp build so I can AAB off-element. But for this dummy, since I'm actually trying to get himes killed off, the hp isn't helpful, so I just stuffed my grid with more exceed than usual.

What I don't understand is this:... since no type of Stealth and similar works on this dummy, what on earth makes those chances to high? Shouldn't it be more like 1/5 and 1/5-ish?

The first attack only targets the front row, so getting Arthur killed off is 1/3 chance as there're only 3 himes in front; second attack only targets the back row, so getting Tish killed is 1/2 chance. Assuming they are independent, I just multiplied the two probabilities to get 1/6 chance. I got all 6 elements done in roughly 40 tries, so, that's roughly consistent with the 1/6 estimate? RNG can decide to mess with you though, so someone else that tries this might end up with a lot more or a lot less attempts, no refunds if others try it and it didn't perform to expectations...

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

Alright, here it is. I didn't record off-element runs, but it's exactly the same build. And no salt please, dun make me regret posting the video...

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As long as dummy kills Arthur then kills Tish (should be 1/6 chance of happening 'cos 1/3 for first kill, 1/2 for second kill)), I get the guaranteed 2B-2B-FB. Full explanation is in the video description for those that like walls of text.

No salt eh... well how about some gravy instead!!

Well done Dream! That run is well played. Congrats!


Dejnov.

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

I actually dun burst that hard in actual raids, 'cos I prefer using high hp build so I can AAB off-element. But for this dummy, since I'm actually trying to get himes killed off, the hp isn't helpful, so I just stuffed my grid with more exceed than usual.

Normal people don't really have the luxury of deciding what they use.

I have a big problem that I simply can't get my Hime killed when on-element. Even after doing the only replacement that I can (Phul Hammer -> Jormungand Hammer) if I use Nidhoggr or B frame, I simply can't get oneshot anymore. Fuck. That kinda locks me into using SSR Baal for -50% Def...

Originally Posted by dreamlitz

The first attack only targets the front row, so getting Arthur killed off is 1/3 chance as there're only 3 himes in front; second attack only targets the back row, so getting Tish killed is 1/2 chance.

... that's how it works? That would've been nice to know before. That would explain why I've never, ever had an attack hit the same Hime twice.