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  1. #181

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    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Just sum maths. Since Hagith affects exceed as well, even if NAtks may be slightly lower compared to double Fluffy, the burst dmg will be higher which as you already know light benefits a lot. That, and simple HP pool increase in order to survive without much of a dmg cut/heal.
    Ah, I see. As somebody who hasn't managed to get Michael, I don't value the damage part of Exceed in the slightest. I just grab enough for burst cap. But I guess if you're fast enough...
    Quote Originally Posted by nonsensei View Post
    Oh, and wind is supposed to be the ruler of Dummies at this point, just taco apparently being too light bias. The reason should be pretty obvious if you take a look at my wind run which didn't even involve Yori or most cores. I gotta say, that surprised me as well.
    Read: "Wind Atum is OP as fug"?


  2. #182
    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Ah, I see. As somebody who hasn't managed to get Michael, I don't value the damage part of Exceed in the slightest. I just grab enough for burst cap. But I guess if you're fast enough...
    Considering I bursted 7x out of 14 turns, yeah. NAtks become pretty insignificant at that point, and nukes (which were mostly just Lugh) reach cap, anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Read: "Wind Atum is OP as fug"?
    That's the gist of it, yes.
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    Time for a new Skill Checker-kun, it seems. As usual now, he is nigh-immune to off-element attempts.

    This time the gimmick is that Balance and Tricky types deal 1.5x extra damage (the extra damage ignores damage caps supposedly, so 525k normal attacks and 3m bursts). However, please keep in mind that reaching Def cap doubles damage for everyone, which is far more important than one more Tricky/Balance Hime.

    Skill Checker-kun himself is very simple this time around, all he does is this:
    Turn 1: Atk+ (can't be Dispelled) and ~500 AoE
    Turn 4: Atk+ (can't be Dispelled) and ~2000 AoE (higher priority than Overdrive)(will punch for about 1k at this point)
    Turn 7: Atk+ (can't be Dispelled) and ~4000 AoE (higher priority than Overdrive)(will punch for about 3k at this point)
    Overdrive: Combo+(stacks) and attack normally
    So, nothing devastating this time. Just don't expect to be at full health at the end of the fight, but for the most part, Vigor should serve you extremely well here.

    Here is a list of noteworthy Tricky and Balance characters, courtesy of DMM wiki. Bolded have def debuffs, italics are limited:

    Souls:Van Helsing, Billy the Kid, Crowley. Note that you'll usually just use Yori.

    Fire:Amon, Yamaraja -20 B, Dakki, Prometheus, Heph(SR) -15 A, Culyune(SR) -10 C, Sati(SR) -10 unique (reminder: Cerberus -15)

    Water:Nike -20 A, Celia -15 A, Cthulhu -20 C, Pluto -30 unique, Diana, Dagda, Saraswati, Neptune, Gabriel(SR) -12 A, Parjanya(SR) -20 B, Belphegor(SR) -12 B

    Wind:Hastur A -20 E -10, Poseidon, Manes, Aether, Minerva, Titania, Cybele(SR) -15 B, Oberon(SR) -15 A, and of course Atum. Because 6m full bursts are going to be totally fair and balanced. (reminder: Hraes -20)

    Thunder:Anshar -20 E, Nuwa -20 B, Samael -30 A, Marduk, Arianrod, KARIN, Vishnu, Noel(SR) -15 A, Nyarl -15 C (reminder: Nidhoggr -15)

    Light:Tishtrya -15 B, Nike, Baal, Michiru, Hastur, Michael, Eros, Shamash, Diana(SR) -15 A

    Dark:Satan -15 A -10 E, Amon -25 C, Samael -25 E, Nyarl -20 E (and -30 unique 1/2 uptime), DWU, Nuwa, Bastet, Hades, Pluto, Chernobog, Agaliarept, Selene, Nyarl(SR) -15 A



    This one seems to be even stronger than ever in the "did you catch them all?" category, but oh well. Good luck to you all.

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    So, the eight Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

    Total:
    Code:
    01. (moonrunes)#1	900m [6e,426H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    02. SwampyKong		891m [6e,405H] (DarkHell)
    03. AsD2038		866m [6e,391H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    04. msn06s		839m [7e,406H] (Isekai)
    05. 666			819m [6e,398H] ((moonrunes))
    06. (moonrunes)#2	817m [7e,397H] (Isekai)
    07. Char Aznable	798m [4e,345H] (NeoZeon)
    08. VERYVOODOO		791m [3e,343H] (Ixion)
    09. keajo		784m [4e,381H] (RedPhantom)
    10. hyugaricdeau	784m [6e,420H] (TsukiKishi)
    11. nonsensei		773m [1e,343H] (Drama Club)
    12. mlw61520		765m [4e,372H] (Khaos)
    13. J			758m [2e,346H] (TsukiKishi)
    14. Arrow		735m [7e,380H] (Gacha)
    15. Myth		735m [6e,371H] (20something)
    16. AXSXCE		728m [4e,396H] (RedPhantom)
    17. (moonrunes)#3	728m [2e,363H] (Weeb Wanks)
    18. dreamlitz		716m [2e,350H] (Nonsense)
    19. Aurelius		707m [6e,358H] (Weeb Wanks)
    20. (moonrunes)#4	702m [7e,400H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    ...
    25. Linkin Park		662m [6e,396H] (20something)
    26. Caldernaji		658m [6e,322H] (DarkHell)
    ...
    36. jasieknms		623m [7e,339H] (DarkHell)
    ...
    47. yummi		606m [6e,398H] (DarkHell)
    ...
    71. PanTurtle		526m [2e,314H] (Weeb Wanks)
    ...
    138. (moonrunes)#5	432m [5e,301H] (20something)
    [e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.] For reference:
    30. Slashley		647m [5e,363H] (Kingdom AR)
    Highest:
    Code:
    01. (moonrunes)#2	187m, Wind	[150e]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(Isekai)
    02. msn06s		184m, Wind	[160e]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(Isekai)
    03. (moonrunes)#1	182m, Water	[155e]	Parac-Neptune-Cthulhu-Pluto-Dadga	(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    04. SwampyKong		176m, Wind	[140e]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(DarkHell)
    05. Myth		174m, Wind	[155e]	Yori-Kali-Atum-Hastur-Marduk(SR)	(20something)
    06. mlw61520		172m, Dark	[120e]	Yori-Amon-Take-DWU-Nyarl(SSR)		(Khaos)
    07. Caldernaji		168m, Water	[160e]	Yori-Neptune-Cthulhu-Pluto-Asherah	(DarkHell)
    08. yummi		168m, Wind	[160e]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(DarkHell)
    09. Linkin Park		167m, Wind	[160e]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(20something)
    10. PanTurtle		166m, Wind	[  GE]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(Weeb Wanks)
    11. 666			166m, Light	[120e]	Parac-Michael-Iris-Eros-Baal		((moonrunes))
    12. dreamlitz		162m, Light	[  GE]	Yori-Tish-Michael-Lugh-Iris		(Nonsense)
    13. VERYVOODOO		162m, Wind	[  GE]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(Ixion)
    14. jasieknms		161m, Water	[120e]	Yori-Nike-Diana-Pluto-Asherah		(DarkHell)
    15. AsD2038		161m, Wind	[160e]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    16. nonsensei		160m, Light	[  GE]	Parac-Michael-Iris-Eros-Baal		(Drama Club)
    17. AXSXCE		160m, Wind	[160e]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur		(RedPhantom)
    18. J			159m, Thunder	[160e]	Caspar-Marduk-Samael-Arianrod-Anshar	(TsukiKishi)
    19. Char Aznable	158m, Wind	[Kyuki]	Yori-Kali-Atum-Hastur-Marduk(SR)	(NeoZeon)
    20. (moonrunes)#5	157m, Wind	[155e]	Yori-Minerva-Azazel-Atum-Hastur		(20something)
    ...
    23. (moonrunes)#4	153m, Thunder	[160e]	Yori-Marduk-Nuwa-Samael-Sol		(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    ...
    28. keajo		151m, Dark	[120e]	Yori-Satan-Thanatos-DWU-Nuwa		(RedPhantom)
    ...
    32. Arrow		148m, Thunder	[120e]	Parac-Marduk-Nuwa-Samael-Cyclops(SR)	(Gacha)
    ...
    36. Aurelius		146m, Thunder	[160e]	Yori-Marduk-Raiko-Samael-Anshar		(Weeb Wanks)
    ...
    41. hyugaricdeau	143m, Thunder	[160e]	Yori-Marduk-Samael-Arianrod-Anshar	(TsukiKishi)
    ...
    45. (moonrunes)#3	140m, Wind	[  GE]	Yori-Titania-Aether-Atum-Hastur	(TsukiKishi)
    [e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:
    38. Slashley 		146m, Thunder	[Giri]	Yori-Marduk-Nuwa-Anshar-Sol		(Kingdom AR)

    Good work, everyone.

    Teams were quite tight this round, as expected. There was exactly one cookie-cutter build for Wind, for example. If you missed any of the ideal hime for a team, you were quite likely just fucked on that element. Additionally, for this Skill Checker and all the Skill Checkers to come, whoever has the most MLB North Star Eidolons is just going to win. Many of the people on the top didn't use any, but we are eventually going to see a shift towards a direction where those who spam North Stars will just have unreachable scores.

    Personally I put in a ton of effort into making my Thunder team work, but just couldn't. I crazy optimized a build which went up to 144m, then got reminded by Calder that Devil set exists. Duh. Well, I just couldn't optimize it properly with Devils, so I got a meager 2m boost swapping from Tiaras to Devils. At that point I basically just lost interest. Not that I would be MUCH higher up on the list if I had tried Devil Accessories on other elements, like I tried putting it on Wind and found out that I didn't have enough base HP to support that, ha ha.

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    Since this Skill Checker-kun was VERY gimmicky, I don't know if there is any point to this but... I compiled a per-element leaderboard.

    Please note that outside of the bolded, this list is NOT accurate. For example for Wind teams, it's plenty possible that somebody got 157m making him #14 instead of nonsensei. But because he is outside of both top20s, I can't see him and therefore can't list his score.

    Water:

    Code:
    01	(moonrunes)#1	182m
    02	Caldernaji	168m
    03	jasieknms	161m
    04	666		155m
    05	AsD2038 	152m
    06	keajo   	150m
    07	CharAznable	149m
    08	(moonrunes)#2	145m
    09	LinkinPark	144m
    10	Aurelius	144m
    11	J           	143m
    12	msn06s    	140m
    13	Arrow    	137m
    14	nonsensei	134m
    15	hyugaricdeau	134m
    16	VERYVOODOO	133m
    17	SwampyKong	131m
    18	Slashley	129m
    19	mlw61520	118m
    20	dreamlitz	108m
    21	Myth         	107m
    22	AXSXCE         	107m
    23	(moonrunes)#3	107m
    24	(moonrunes)#4	105m
    25	yummi     	88m
    26	PanTurtle	60m
    27	(moonrunes)#5	53m

    Thunder:

    Code:
    01	msn06s    	166m
    02	(moonrunes)#1	161m
    03	J           	159m
    04	(moonrunes)#4	153m
    05	SwampyKong	152m
    06	Arrow    	148m
    07	CharAznable	146m
    08	Aurelius	146m
    09	Slashley	146m
    10	hyugaricdeau	143m
    11	AsD2038 	141m
    12	keajo   	134m
    13	(moonrunes)#3	134m
    14	yummi     	133m
    15	(moonrunes)#2	129m
    16	AXSXCE         	129m
    17	666		123m
    18	mlw61520	122m
    19	VERYVOODOO	120m
    20	jasieknms	115m
    21	dreamlitz	115m
    22	Caldernaji	104m
    23	nonsensei	102m
    24	Myth         	101m
    25	LinkinPark	95m
    26	(moonrunes)#5	49m
    27	PanTurtle	41m

    Fire:

    Code:
    01	SwampyKong	151m
    02	AsD2038 	136m
    03	(moonrunes)#1	135m
    04	VERYVOODOO	113m
    05	Arrow    	112m
    06	hyugaricdeau	112m
    07	msn06s    	111m
    08	666		110m
    09	(moonrunes)#2	109m
    10	nonsensei	109m
    11	(moonrunes)#3	106m
    12	mlw61520	105m
    13	Myth         	105m
    14	CharAznable	102m
    15	Caldernaji	101m
    16	keajo   	99m
    17	J           	93m
    18	AXSXCE         	89m
    19	dreamlitz	88m
    20	(moonrunes)#4	86m
    21	Aurelius	85m
    22	PanTurtle	85m
    23	yummi     	80m
    24	jasieknms	80m
    25	Slashley	76m
    26	(moonrunes)#5	61m
    27	LinkinPark	59m

    Wind:

    Code:
    01	(moonrunes)#2	187m
    02	msn06s    	184m
    03	SwampyKong	176m
    04	Myth         	174m
    05	(moonrunes)#1	171m
    06	yummi     	168m
    07	LinkinPark	167m
    08	PanTurtle	166m
    09	VERYVOODOO	162m
    10	AsD2038 	161m
    11	AXSXCE         	160m
    12	CharAznable	158m
    13	(moonrunes)#5	157m
    14	nonsensei	156m
    15	hyugaricdeau	141m
    16	(moonrunes)#3	140m
    17	mlw61520	135m
    18	Aurelius	129m
    19	666		127m
    20	J           	121m
    21	Arrow    	120m
    22	Caldernaji	119m
    23	dreamlitz	118m
    24	keajo   	116m
    25	Slashley	116m
    26	(moonrunes)#4	111m
    27	jasieknms	82m

    Dark:

    Code:
    01	mlw61520	172m
    02	keajo   	151m
    03	msn06s    	147m
    04	666		136m
    05	J           	134m
    06	SwampyKong	130m
    07	AsD2038 	129m
    08	VERYVOODOO	125m
    09	hyugaricdeau	124m
    10	dreamlitz	123m
    11	(moonrunes)#3	122m
    12	AXSXCE         	117m
    13	CharAznable	115m
    14	Myth         	114m
    15	(moonrunes)#1	111m
    16	(moonrunes)#4	110m
    17	nonsensei	109m
    18	(moonrunes)#2	105m
    19	Arrow    	105m
    20	Aurelius	103m
    21	LinkinPark	99m
    22	Slashley	99m
    23	jasieknms	91m
    24	PanTurtle	84m
    25	yummi     	80m
    26	Caldernaji	62m
    27	(moonrunes)#5	49m

    Light:

    Code:
    01	666		166m
    02	dreamlitz	162m
    03	nonsensei	160m
    04	SwampyKong	149m
    05	AsD2038 	144m
    06	(moonrunes)#2	140m
    07	(moonrunes)#1	137m
    08	VERYVOODOO	135m
    09	(moonrunes)#4	134m
    10	keajo   	131m
    11	Myth         	131m
    12	hyugaricdeau	128m
    13	CharAznable	125m
    14	AXSXCE         	123m
    15	(moonrunes)#3	114m
    16	Arrow    	111m
    17	mlw61520	110m
    18	J           	105m
    19	Caldernaji	102m
    20	Aurelius	98m
    21	LinkinPark	95m
    22	jasieknms	92m
    23	msn06s    	88m
    24	PanTurtle	88m
    25	Slashley	80m
    26	(moonrunes)#5	61m
    27	yummi     	56m


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    Ninth Skill Checker-kun has begun.

    You have 11 turns. Elemental advantage only. Debuffs apply, except for things that prevent Skill Checker-kun from taking turns (Charm, Para, you know). Rages and Stuns quickly. Every turn you get hit by a Trigger:

    It loops by doing small, medium, high damage. With the third one applying Atk Up (which I assume cannot be Dispelled). Without debuffs, about:
    Turn 01: 3x250 (750)
    Turn 02: 3x350 (1050)
    Turn 03: 5x700 (3500)
    Turn 04: 3x1200 (3600)
    Turn 05: 3x1800 (5400)
    Turn 06: 5x3500 (17500)
    Turn 07: 3x2200 (6600)
    Turn 08: 3x3200 (9600)
    Turn 09: 5x6200 (31000)
    Turn 10: 3x3200 (9600)
    Turn 11: Damage you take on this turn doesn't matter.

    That's a total of 88600 damage. There are two catches though: damage is extremely likely to hit the front row only, and back row takes way less damage (50-75% reduction, unsure). In other words, you have two tactics available to you: killing front rowers on purpose, or using Guard from back row to mitigate damage significantly.

    The DMM wiki seems to also be talking about Intercept, but I couldn't make that happen. If Intercept does work, I assume that Arianrod (2/5 uptime), Shamash (3/6 uptime), Berith (3/5 uptime) and Erebus (3/6+ uptime) would be handy.

    And finally, to be noted is that this Skill Checker-kun has high Def. This means three things:
    1. You will be doing 62.5% damage compared to normal. Since you were doing 150% damage to last Skill Checker-kun, the numbers may feel very low this time (between half and one-third).
    2. Ability damage which is basically always capped against normal def might feel more useful now. However, Full Bursts are still where the damage is at.
    3. Extreme whales will pull higher numbers compared to you this time around. Since if you barely hit cap and they hit for 10% more damage, it means that they actually have twice your power. Now that the pure power required to hit cap is way higher, their numbers will be far bigger than yours.

    Ultimately, whoever has the most MLB Northern Stars will win though. Good luck, have fun~

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    So, the ninth Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

    Total:

    Code:
    01. msn06s		556m [7e,416H] (Isekai)
    02. 666			548m [6e,411H] (20something)
    03. AsD2038		548m [7e,398H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    04. keajo		534m [4e,397H] (RedPhantom)
    05. VERYVOODOO		534m [3e,356H] (Ixion)
    06. mlw61520		521m [4e,382H] (Khaos)
    07. SwampyKong		517m [7e,412H] (DarkHell)
    08. AXSXCE		498m [6e,404H] (RedPhantom)
    09. Arrow		496m [7e,395H] (Gacha)
    10. hyugaricdeau	495m [6e,433H] (TsukiKishi)
    11. Char Aznable	494m [4e,355H] (NeoZeon)
    12. Nurse Dom		493m [4e,367H] (TsukiKishi)
    13. J			490m [4e,363H] (TsukiKishi)
    14. dreamlitz		483m [3e,361H] (Nonsense)
    15. (moonrunes#1)	483m [6e,413H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    16. (moonrunes#2)	474m [2e,373H] (Weeb Wanks)
    17. Myth		455m [6e,383H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    18. Aurelius		453m [5e,372H] (Weeb Wanks)
    19. ChaosPrince42	451m [6e,384H] (RedPhantom)
    20. Yion		451m [5e,321H] (Isekai)
    ...
    22. Whale		443m [6e,371H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    23. Slashley		433m [5e,372H] (Isekai)
    ...
    27. alex		424m [5e,377H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    ...
    30. jasieknms		451m [7e,348H] (DarkHell)
    ...
    35. yummi		394m [6e,406H] (DarkHell)
    ...
    59. Alyssa		351m [5e,308H] (TsukiKishi)
    ...
    115. Cyler		282m [7e,375H] (DeathLotus)
    ...
    340. Artur		178m [6e,400H] (Khaos)
    [e stands in for number of 100%+ Eidolon, H stands in for Hime count.]

    Highest:

    Code:
    01. mlw61520		128m, Dark	[?]	?					(Khaos)
    02. 666			120m, Light	[?]	?					(20something)
    03. Cyler		114m, Light	[?]	?					(DeathLotus)
    04. dreamlitz		114m, Light	[?]	?					(Nonsense)
    05. Artur		113m, Dark	[?]	?					(Khaos)
    06. AsD2038		109m, Wind	[?]	?					(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    08. yummi		107m, Wind	[?]	?					(DarkHell)
    09. Nurse Dom		106m, Light	[?]	?					(TsukiKishi)
    10. msn06s		106m, Thunder	[?]	?					(Isekai)
    11. AXSXCE		104m, Wind	[?]	?					(RedPhantom)
    12. J			102m, Dark	[?]	?					(TsukiKishi)
    13. SwampyKong		102m, Fire	[?]	?					(DarkHell)
    14. VERYVOODOO		102m, Dark	[?]	?					(Ixion)
    15. keajo		102m, Dark	[?]	?					(RedPhantom)
    16. alex		101m, Light	[?]	?					(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    17. Myth		100m, Light	[?]	?					(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    18. jasieknms		 99m, Water	[120e]	Yori-Nike-Diana-Pluto-Asherah		(DarkHell)
    19. Whale		 98m, Light	[?]	?					(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    20. Alyssa		 97m, Wind	[140e]	Yori-Frigg-Azazel-Atum-Hastur		(TsukiKishi)
    21. Arrow		 97m, Wind	[115e]	Yori-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Hastur		(Gacha)
    22. (moonrunes#2)	 96m, Thunder	[?]	?					(Weeb Wanks)
    ...
    24. hyugaricdeau	 95m, Light	[?]	?					(TsukiKishi)
    ...
    26. (moonrunes#1)	 93m, Thunder	[160e]	Yori-Tyr-Marduk-Anshar-Sol		(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    ...
    28. Char Aznable	 93m, Wind	[?]	?					(NeoZeon)
    ...
    31. Yion		 91m, Fire	[?]	?					(Isekai)
    ...
    43. Slashley 		 88m, Thunder	[160e]	Yori-Marduk-Tyr-Nuwa-Sol		(Isekai)
    ...
    51. Aurelius		 85m, Water	[?]	?					(Weeb Wanks)
    ...
    82. ChaosPrince42	 82m, Water	[160e]	Yori-Nike-Shiva-Cthulhu-Pluto		(RedPhantom)
    [e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian.] For reference:

    Good work, everyone.

    Well, ultimately ended up being a fairly interesting event. Sadly, the rankings broke after the first three days... so the only teams that we know of are the ones where the run was done at the very start. Maybe. I make no guarantee that teams here are correct, it is fully possible that people went back and improved their scores during the second week with a different team this time around.

    Dark did extremely well this time around. I would assume that's because of damage caps were less of an issue? Dark has lots of Hime which self-buff to extreme levels - this usually just means that they hit damage caps and don't hit as hard as they should, but high def in this event made it far less of a problem. Or it could've been due to Berith/Erebus Intercept. I dunno, if anyone does know, feel free to post. I'd LOVE to know meta teams in general, something that sadly we don't get to see this time around. Thanks Nutaku!

  8. #188

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    I compiled a per-element leaderboard for 9th Skill Checker-kun. This one was rather un-gimmicky, so I figured why not. Again, these are not guaranteed numbers below bolded.

    Water:

    Code:
    01	jasieknms	99
    02	msn06s		94
    03	keajo		94
    04	Arrow		89
    05	VERYVOODOO	88
    06	Aurelius	85
    07	SwampyKong	84
    08	Char Aznable	84
    09	666		83
    10	ChaosPrince42	82
    11	J		80
    12	Slashley	80
    13	AsD2038		75
    14	Nurse Dom	75
    15	Yion		75
    16	hyugaricdeau	74
    17	(moonrunes#1)	74
    18	mlw61520	73
    19	(moonrunes#2)	68
    20	alex		65
    21	dreamlitz	63
    22	Myth		63
    23	AXSXCE		61
    24	Whale		61
    25	yummi		42
    26	Alyssa		37
    27	MagicSpice	21
    28	Cyler		13
    29	Artur		12

    Thunder:

    Code:
    01	msn06s		106
    02	(moonrunes#2)	96
    03	AXSXCE		94
    04	(moonrunes#1)	93
    05	AsD2038		91
    06	Arrow		90
    07	Slashley	88
    08	Nurse Dom	84
    09	Aurelius	83
    10	J		83
    11	mlw61520	83
    12	VERYVOODOO	82
    13	keajo		81
    14	Char Aznable	80
    15	ChaosPrince42	80
    16	alex		80
    17	yummi		79
    18	SwampyKong	78
    19	hyugaricdeau	78
    20	666		74
    21	dreamlitz	73
    22	Whale		70
    23	jasieknms	64
    24	Myth		64
    25	Yion		63
    26	Alyssa		40
    27	MagicSpice	32
    28	Cyler		23
    29	Artur		11

    Fire:

    Code:
    01	SwampyKong	102
    02	AsD2038		92
    03	Yion		91
    04	Myth		87
    05	Arrow		86
    06	hyugaricdeau	85
    07	keajo		77
    08	666		77
    09	jasieknms	77
    10	msn06s		76
    11	J		76
    12	VERYVOODOO	76
    13	Char Aznable	76
    14	dreamlitz	76
    15	mlw61520	73
    16	ChaosPrince42	70
    17	Nurse Dom	69
    18	yummi		68
    19	Aurelius	66
    20	(moonrunes#1)	65
    21	(moonrunes#2)	64
    22	AXSXCE		64
    23	Slashley	56
    24	alex		49
    25	Alyssa		41
    26	Whale		38
    27	Cyler		36
    28	MagicSpice	35
    29	Artur		12

    Wind:

    Code:
    01	AsD2038		109
    02	yummi		107
    03	AXSXCE		104
    04	msn06s		102
    05	Arrow		97
    06	Alyssa		97
    07	Char Aznable	93
    08	666		90
    09	VERYVOODOO	90
    10	SwampyKong	89
    11	keajo		85
    12	(moonrunes#1)	81
    13	Whale		80
    14	mlw61520	79
    15	Nurse Dom	78
    16	Aurelius	78
    17	Yion		71
    18	J		71
    19	hyugaricdeau	69
    20	dreamlitz	69
    21	(moonrunes#2)	69
    22	ChaosPrince42	66
    23	Slashley	66
    24	Myth		64
    25	alex		61
    26	jasieknms	57
    27	Cyler		38
    28	MagicSpice	25
    29	Artur		16

    Dark:

    Code:
    01	mlw61520	128
    02	Artur		113
    03	msn06s		105
    04	666		102
    05	VERYVOODOO	102
    06	keajo		102
    07	J		102
    08	Whale		93
    09	AsD2038		91
    10	hyugaricdeau	91
    11	dreamlitz	87
    12	(moonrunes#2)	87
    13	Alyssa		84
    14	(moonrunes#1)	83
    15	AXSXCE		81
    16	SwampyKong	81
    17	Slashley	81
    18	Nurse Dom	79
    19	Char Aznable	78
    20	ChaosPrince42	76
    21	Myth		74
    22	Yion		70
    23	Arrow		69
    24	alex		65
    25	Aurelius	63
    26	yummi		58
    27	jasieknms	58
    28	Cyler		56
    29	MagicSpice	47

    Light:

    Code:
    01	666		120
    02	dreamlitz	114
    03	Cyler		114
    04	MagicSpice	108
    05	Nurse Dom	106
    06	alex		101
    07	Myth		100
    08	Whale		98
    09	hyugaricdeau	95
    10	VERYVOODOO	94
    11	keajo		93
    12	AXSXCE		91
    13	AsD2038		89
    14	(moonrunes#2)	88
    15	(moonrunes#1)	84
    16	mlw61520	83
    17	SwampyKong	80
    18	Char Aznable	80
    19	Yion		78
    20	Aurelius	76
    21	ChaosPrince42	75
    22	J		74
    23	msn06s		71
    24	Arrow		63
    25	Slashley	59
    26	Alyssa		48
    27	jasieknms	46
    28	yummi		36
    29	Artur		11


  9. #189

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    10th Skill Checker-kun is here.

    You have 12 turns. Elemental advantage only. Debuffs apply, ALL of them. Rages and Stuns quickly. This time, Skill Checker-kun does VERY little damage back to you, so you can mostly fight him in peace. Might combo attack one character for a lot in the final turns if you didn't bring any Atk-.

    The real quirk this time around is normal attack damage. I don't... fully understand how it works. I think you deal double normal attack damage, and cap is double of normal (700k?). But I think if you go above cap, your damage is only reduced by 50% instead of the usual 90%? I... really don't understand the numbers here. It's WEIRD. All I know is, you can get some INSANE normal attacks if you just pump the fuck up on modifiers, such as Assault, Vigor, Berserk and Byakko. And Technica, if you somehow have some of that in your Grid.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, I guess I should mention is that weaker players might find Full Bursts better than normal attacks. Remember, the maximum damage you can do with Full Bursts is around 3.5m per character, which is still quite a lot. But the strong players will probably ignore Bursts entirely unless they are needed for certain Hime Burst effects. I mean, my Perkele did 6m by herself during one turn...

    Parac is obviously the only correct choice here (unless you simply cannot reach -50% Def, in which case I guess you need to rely on Paras). Make sure you run her BERSERK, as it's a ridiculous damage boost this time around. There are also very extremely powerful normal attack Hime, like Thanatos in Dark - so there are absolutely some core Hime in each element (HA HA WIND ATUM GO GET MORE BERSERK FROM PARAC), but overall there should be quite a lot of leeway in teams this time around.
    Last edited by Slashley; 06-13-2021 at 11:00 AM.

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    So, the tenth Skill Checker-kun event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

    Total:

    Code:
    01. (moonrunes)#1	1814m [452H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    02. (moonrunes)#2	1520m [520H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    03. Arrow		1476m [411H] (Gacha)
    04. SwampyKong		1468m [430H] (DarkHell)
    05. AsD2038		1463m [413H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    06. (moonrunes)#3	1412m [433H] (20something)
    07. Ebisu		1402m [418H] (IronBlades)
    08. hyugaricdeau	1388m [446H] (TsukiKishi)
    09. Myth		1379m [417H] (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    10. J			1360m [380H] (TsukiKishi)
    11. Nurse Dom		1342m [383H] (TsukiKishi)
    12. Skybullet		1321m [402H] (ToF)
    13. dreamlitz		1316m [373H] (Nonsense)
    14. msn06s		1313m [428H] (Isekai)
    15. Char Aznable	1301m [375H] (Lalka-Doll)
    16. keajo		1239m [413H] (RedPhantom)
    17. AXSXCE		1236m [420H] (RedPhantom)
    18. mlw61520		1231m [392H] (DarkHell)
    19. VERYVOODOO		1230m [366H] (Ixion)
    20. Caje		1227m [376H] ((moonrunes))
    21. ?
    22. (moonrunes)#4	1209m [372H] (20something)
    23. Slashley		1198m [380H] (Isekai)
    ...
    26. Machis Pengy	1172m [366H] (DarkHell)
    ...
    31. Faust		1123m [405H] (CybeastV15)
    ...
    39. (moonrunes)#5	1085m [381H] (Weeb Wanks)
    ...
    47. Alyssa		1030m [317H] (TsukiKishi)
    ...
    72. naz1212		 951m [375H] (20something)
    [H stands in for Hime count.]

    Highest:

    Code:
    01. (moonrunes)#1	358m, Water	[ 80H] Parac-Vohu-Februus-Dadga-Aphrodite	(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    02. SwampyKong		311m, Fire	[   G] Parac-Dakki-Dian-Dadga-Mars		(DarkHell)
    03. (moonrunes)#2	309m, Thunder	[160e] Parac-Ymir-Marduk-Arianrod-Anshar	(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    04. msn06s		285m, Wind	[160e] Parac-Cu-Azazel-Atum-Vohu			(Isekai)
    05. AsD2038		282m, Fire	[   G] Parac-Dakki-Dian-Dadga-Mars		(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    06. Arrow		274m, Thunder	[120e] Parac-Ymir-Marduk-Nuwa-Anshar		(Gacha)
    07. (moonrunes)#3	266m, Light	[   G] Parac-Iris-Baal-Shiva-Frey		(20something)
    08. Ebisu		264m, Fire	[155e] Parac-Yamaraja-Dian-Dadga-Mars		(IronBlades)
    09. mlw61520		264m, Dark	[120e] Parac-Thanatos-Takemikata-DWU-Nyarl(SSR)	(DarkHell)
    10. J			261m, Thunder	[160e] Parac-Baal-Aphrodite-Ymir-Marduk		(TsukiKishi)
    11. Machis Pengy	258m, Light	[   G] Parac-Iris-Baal-Shiva-Frey		(DarkHell)
    12. Faust		257m, Water	[120e] Parac-Cybele-Asherah-Dadga-Chernobog	(CybeastV15)
    13. Myth		255m, Wind	[155e] Parac-Aether-Azazel-Atum-Vohu		(談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
    14. naz1212		254m, Water	[120e] Parac-Vohu-Pluto-Dadga-Chernobog		(20something)
    15. AXSXCE		253m, Wind	[160e] Parac-Cu-Azazel-Atum-Hastur		(RedPhantom)
    16. Alyssa		253m, Wind	[140e] Parac-Frigg-Azazel-Atum-Vohu		(TsukiKishi)
    17. (moonrunes)#4	253m, Wind	[160e] Parac-Cu-Azazel-Atum-Hastur		(20something)
    18. (moonrunes)#5	251m, Thunder	[120e] Parac-Aphrodite-Ymir-Marduk-Anshar	(Weeb Wanks)
    19. Nurse Dom		251m, Water	[160e] Parac-Nike-Diana-Pluto-Dadga		(TsukiKishi)
    20. Char Aznable	251m, Water	[160e] Parac-Neptune-Pluto-Dadga-Aphrodite	(Lalka-Doll)
    21. dreamlitz		249m, Light	[   G] Parac-Iris-Michiru-Baal-Shiva		(Nonsense)
    22. ?
    23. hyugaricdeau	248m, Fire	[160e] Parac-Dian-Tish-Dadga-Mars		(TsukiKishi)
    24. Caje		245m, Water	[160e] Parac-Vohu-Februus-Dadga-Aphrodite	((moonrunes))
    25. Skybullet		244m, Light	[   G] Parac-Iris-Baal-Shiva-Frey		(ToF)
    ...
    30. Slashley 		240m, Thunder	[160e] Parac-Ymir-Marduk-Nuwa-Anshar		(Isekai)
    ...
    44. VERYVOODOO		231m, Thunder	[   G] Parac-Baal-Ymir-Marduk-Perkele		(Ixion)
    ...
    47. keajo		230m, Water	[   G] Parac-Vohu-Shiva-Dadga-Aphrodite		(RedPhantom)
    
    [e means Elemental, c Character Atk, G for Guardian, H for Heavenly Disaster.]

    Per element:
    Water

    Code:
    01	(moonrunes)#1	358
    02	AsD2038		270
    03	Arrow		265
    04	Faust		257
    05	SwampyKong	255
    06	naz1212		254
    07	NurseDom	251
    08	CharAznable	251
    09	Ebisu		247
    10	Caje		245
    11	J		242
    12	Skybullet	237
    13	Myth		234
    14	(moonrunes)#2	232
    15	keajo		230
    16	(moonrunes)#3	227
    17	dreamlitz	224
    18	(moonrunes)#4	222
    19	VERYVOODOO	214
    20	msn06s		213
    21	mlw61520	213
    22	hyugaricdeau	205
    23	AXSXCE		199
    24	(moonrunes)#5	197
    25	Slashley	196
    26	MachisPengy	167
    27	Alyssa		160

    Thunder

    Code:
    01	(moonrunes)#2	309
    02	(moonrunes)#1	304
    03	Arrow		274
    04	J		261
    05	SwampyKong	256
    06	(moonrunes)#5	251
    07	AsD2038		247
    08	Slashley	240
    09	(moonrunes)#3	237
    10	hyugaricdeau	237
    11	Ebisu		235
    12	VERYVOODOO	231
    13	NurseDom	229
    14	dreamlitz	229
    15	CharAznable	228
    16	msn06s		223
    17	Myth		219
    18	AXSXCE		216
    19	mlw61520	212
    20	(moonrunes)#4	209
    21	Skybullet	202
    22	keajo		201
    23	Caje		198
    24	MachisPengy	155
    25	Faust		153
    26	Alyssa		131
    27	naz1212		103

    Fire

    Code:
    01	(moonrunes)#2	256
    02	(moonrunes)#1	335
    03	Arrow		264
    04	J		228
    05	SwampyKong	311
    06	(moonrunes)#5	147
    07	AsD2038		282
    08	Slashley	180
    09	(moonrunes)#3	228
    10	hyugaricdeau	248
    11	Ebisu		264
    12	VERYVOODOO	166
    13	NurseDom	209
    14	dreamlitz	187
    15	CharAznable	197
    16	msn06s		206
    17	Myth		238
    18	AXSXCE		186
    19	mlw61520	178
    20	(moonrunes)#4	164
    21	Skybullet	190
    22	keajo		202
    23	Caje		169
    24	MachisPengy	145
    25	Faust		162
    26	Alyssa		156
    27	naz1212		205

    Wind

    Code:
    01	(moonrunes)#1	290
    02	msn06s		285
    03	Arrow		270
    04	AsD2038		266
    05	Myth		255
    06	AXSXCE		253
    07	(moonrunes)#4	253
    08	Alyssa		253
    09	dreamlitz	242
    10	MachisPengy	242
    11	CharAznable	236
    12	hyugaricdeau	235
    13	(moonrunes)#3	234
    14	(moonrunes)#2	232
    15	SwampyKong	232
    16	Skybullet	231
    17	Ebisu		229
    18	Slashley	225
    19	VERYVOODOO	225
    20	NurseDom	223
    21	Caje		218
    22	mlw61520	209
    23	keajo		203
    24	J		196
    25	(moonrunes)#5	190
    26	Faust		165
    27	naz1212		129

    Dark

    Code:
    01	mlw61520	264
    02	J		254
    03	(moonrunes)#1	252
    04	Ebisu		240
    05	SwampyKong	238
    06	(moonrunes)#2	236
    07	msn06s		234
    08	VERYVOODOO	226
    09	Faust		225
    10	hyugaricdeau	224
    11	(moonrunes)#4	221
    12	AsD2038		218
    13	(moonrunes)#3	218
    14	Slashley	217
    15	keajo		217
    16	Skybullet	214
    17	AXSXCE		209
    18	Arrow		205
    19	CharAznable	205
    20	MachisPengy	203
    21	NurseDom	201
    22	Myth		199
    23	Alyssa		198
    24	Caje		192
    25	dreamlitz	182
    26	(moonrunes)#5	168
    27	naz1212		135

    Light

    Code:
    01	(moonrunes)#1	272
    02	(moonrunes)#3	266
    03	MachisPengy	258
    04	(moonrunes)#2	253
    05	dreamlitz	249
    06	Skybullet	244
    07	hyugaricdeau	236
    08	Myth		231
    09	NurseDom	227
    10	Caje		203
    11	Arrow		194
    12	Ebisu		185
    13	keajo		184
    14	CharAznable	182
    15	AsD2038		177
    16	J		175
    17	SwampyKong	173
    18	AXSXCE		170
    19	VERYVOODOO	165
    20	Faust		159
    21	mlw61520	152
    22	msn06s		149
    23	(moonrunes)#4	137
    24	Slashley	137
    25	Alyssa		129
    26	(moonrunes)#5	129
    27	naz1212		123

    Good work, everyone.

    Overall it was a fairly interesting one. Although there were some extreme core Hime like Wind Atum or Ymir, there were quite a lot of different teams which just worked.

    Not entirely sure why Hagith was so popular for Light teams again. Needing to pick Managarmr for the big combo+ on turn1 makes a lot of sense, but I guess they had lots of Technica from somewhere for Hagith to be better than a second Managarmr...?


    Looking at those scores, I think I forgot to redo my Water with a Berserk build, ha ha! Oh well, nothing important was lost.

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