Thread: Tier 4 Soul Megathread

Originally Posted by atis52

About the book of Heresy fragments - the only two sources are the Och battles and the raid medal exchange, am I correct ?

The primary way to get pages is through Raid Medals, by hosting Och and by MvPing Och. The latter of which is basically impossible for all but veterans.

The other source of pages is especially Guardians, as mentioned by Jessa. While they don't directly drop a lot (I think 2 max, which is extremely rare) they have a small chance of giving you a second daily Och which might give you a boatload of pages. And I guess I should mention that Disaster Rags can also drop them.

The problem here is that veterans probably just don't need Guardians anymore - there is a very limited amount of Treasure that you need, and once you've farmed them, you basically never need any anymore. The fact that even veterans are effectively forced to host one Guardian per day - for Och spawn - doesn't help. In other words, you might find it difficult to find the help to kill the damn things. Meanwhile, you can almost never have enough Magnas since each SSR that you get in the future will require 60 of them... ... ... nice system, devs.

Originally Posted by atis52

-- but tickets ? Never considered them to be a priority over the pages...

To be fair, the average expected outcome of any single ticket is fucking nothing.

But on the other hand, those tickets are cheap.

Jessa, Slashley, thanks for the answers

Woha, I never knew there is a possibility for a second Och spawn

Yeah, I noticed the Guardian battles, it's some 60-70 percent chance that it will just timeout during the day (I don't think kamihime is popular in Europe, I'm usually more successful in the early morning/late evening when the other side of the planet plays )

So time to rethink my farming prios.

The best way to farm Guardians is joining a strong Union with active players in it. Especially if they share your timezone. As soon as we get Raid ID invite system (two days maybe?) they can carry you hard.

Best way to find a Union would... probably be Discord, I guess? This forum is too dead for it, sadly.

Just Unlocked Shingen today, Should I go for Yorimitsu or Medea? I do like the idea of Bursting 3 times in 5 turns if the setup is not too hard.

Originally Posted by AlterX

Just Unlocked Shingen today, Should I go for Yorimitsu or Medea? I do like the idea of Bursting 3 times in 5 turns if the setup is not too hard.

I still stand by this:

Originally Posted by Slashley

I have a long, long overdue write-up about T4 Souls coming up. But the short version is:

First T4 Soul should be Medea of your strongest element.
Your second T4 Soul should be Yori, and preferably all element Lances (or at least all your strong elements).

Only after those are done should you be looking at other Souls, IMO. Explanations coming up once I bother writing the thing.

The setup for the triple-burst build is not hard at all (just Yori Lance during Burst Hour, abi1 -> Full Burst -> 2-A -> full burst after 3 turns (easy with Tiara sets) -> abi1 + 3-C).


But again, I personally find that Medea makes farming everything so much faster that it's probably better to unlock her first. Your personal experience may vary, if you like to manual raids for two Burst Hours every day for example.

Would Yori still be a priority if a grid is lacking exceed? Especially for water mains who may have started recently but wish to save up their eyes for the future as opposed to spending them on a merc axe now.

Originally Posted by praestus

Would Yori still be a priority if a grid is lacking exceed? Especially for water mains who may have started recently but wish to save up their eyes for the future as opposed to spending them on a merc axe now.

What exactly is the "future" that you're saving up for? You're going to need Exceed eventually (and in April, each FLB Merc Axe gives you 50% cap). Exactly how eventually is something that I just don't know, since as a Veteran I was fed all the Exceed weapons by Union events.

I don't know what kind of damage you do right now, but Yori does increase your burst cap with her 3-A skill. It's not a huge amount and re-using it is difficult, but it is there... ... but even if you cap your bursts, Yori's 2-A will make you burst so much more often.


I don't really have a good answer for you. What other Soul were you thinking about?

Ah sorry, I probably should have mentioned that I am interested in saving up for the 50 eye weapon mentioned earlier in the thread.
Just unsure of whether I would benefit more from merc axes or one of these weapons if they are as op as people are making it out to be.

Thank you for the response! Really appreciate it.

Originally Posted by praestus

Ah sorry, I probably should have mentioned that I am interested in saving up for the 50 eye weapon mentioned earlier in the thread.
Just unsure of whether I would benefit more from merc axes or one of these weapons if they are as op as people are making it out to be.

Thank you for the response! Really appreciate it.

I am not entirely sure how those weapons work, but as far as I can tell, they don't have Exceed in them. In other words, you're STILL going to need that Exceed somehow. And unless something has changed on DMM, two Merc Axes are still the way to go.

Ah ok, thank you Slashley. I will just try my best to farm up as many eyes as possible and hope I will have enough for both.