Thread: Tier 4 Soul Megathread

Originally Posted by Geo

I know there is a thread for which Soul to choose, but anyway: are there some tier lists for these new Souls? As a F2P, I'd like to start saving resources for them ASAP, and being realistic, even so I will only manage to unlock one of them for a LOOOOONG time.

I get it that vets despise defensive strategies, so maybe Esculápio (Andromeda) and Romulus (Joan of Arc) are considered mid-low tier. Will consider them anyway if I never get the top Healers (Sol, Amaterasu, Dian Cecht) from Gacha until their release.

Sigfried is trash because she is reliant on enemies having Rage Gauges and so has timing issues (can't put her on AAB), but one could build Hector choosing skills that don't check Raging or Stun... Same is true for Medea (Solomon), one could build her to fill whatever gaps the team has.

It leaves Charlemagne as the top Soul, she is less specialized than Medea and Hector, and is not defensive like Esculápio and Romulus. So:

Charlemagne S tier
Esculápio & Romulus A tier
Medea & Hector B tier (heck, I'd even put Hercules and Shingen above these)

Fairly wrong on a few counts. I know there's some people on here that advise pure offence and that's fine when you're fighting against advents/raid events/ult raids, but there's content out now / upcoming where you straight out need a defensive element of some kind. Funny thing is those advising pure offence aren't even that strong, for the most part.
Quite a few top players use Joan/Andromeda at times (more-so Joan), mainly acting as support in hrags when their team for that element isnt ideal, or when it's something like thunder rag with all that damage. Personally, against those thunder rags I regularly got MVP using Joan on my wind team + gaia. Why? I lived long enough to actually do damage.

Anyway, Medea is the first one to get out of all of these. She's incredibly good and speeds up quite a lot of content.

Yeah, I figured most Raids and Advents aren't so hard, so straight offense can work.

Guild Orders and Tower Events on the other hand, I only do well when I use Andromeda (and Solomon to nuke the first few trash mobs on tower). I keep thinking that when I get good healers, I could finally substitute Andy for Hercules or Shingen though.

As you pointed out, Medea's ability, "3-3: All allies CD reduced by 1 (8T CD)", looks good inded. More heals, more damage cuts, more buffs and debuffs, etc. If the other kamihimes in the team can provide useful skills, seems Medea is actually the best of the bunch. There is also this 10x damage nuke to all enemies with her Soul Weapon... Worth considering.

Kitty, isn't step 5&6 the same thing? So you need to do step 5 every time you want to upgrade a weapon?
Also, your text on step5 says 50 Fangs when the image says 150. 300 Fangs per Soul is pretty fucking rough. Assuming that we start drowning in T4 Crystals (that we supposedly will), the Fangs and Spirit Books seem like the biggest cockblockers.

And I like how you don't list skill names, yet the weapon effects always talk about a skill name. So you have to guess what the weapon effect is.

Originally Posted by Raistlansol

-- Personally, against those thunder rags I regularly got MVP using Joan on my wind team + gaia. Why? I lived long enough to actually do damage.
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While you're not wrong, there's a little problem. You actually need to manual for that to work out for you. And since we're talking about content that you need to do hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times... yeah, no thanks.

Originally Posted by Slashley

And I like how you don't list skill names, yet the weapon effects always talk about a skill name. So you have to guess what the weapon effect is.

I presume those weapons affect only the first skill of each Soul, as the other skills are "flex slots".

Originally Posted by Slashley

While you're not wrong, there's a little problem. You actually need to manual for that to work out for you. And since we're talking about content that you need to do hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times... yeah, no thanks.

Somewhat, I aab'd them after turn 3. That got my cooldowns on a cycle that meant they would generally pop up when needed as long as nobody put a sneaky BP on either mob.

Originally Posted by Slashley

While you're not wrong, there's a little problem. You actually need to manual for that to work out for you. And since we're talking about content that you need to do hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of times... yeah, no thanks.

Sorry but to unlock t4 you need to grind your ass off.
Just talking about pages for example. You can only get 0-1 pages in most raid unless you get mvp or vice (vice is still rng af). Which lead to ppl racing against each other for mvp
If you gonna chill and aab while keeping f2p mindset (since it's you), you are not going to touch a t4 soon cuz 500 pages
In a sense, unlock t4 is just a step to help you race against other for more shit to unlock more t4 (and grab other stuffs while u r at it)

> vet despise defense
Dude, tf r u smoking? Thunder and wind are 2 prime defensive element (cant be helped when phul and ophiel are too strong offensively so they need to go defensive against them. Not to mention water is also a defensive element (in a sense that they prevent boss to OD with various blob eat. That is 3/6 element whose meta team is pretty much a defense variant

> t4 ranking
They are all good. If you need a tier then imo
S: hektor, medea, alpceptus
A: charle, romulus (it's more like because they are kinda bland compared to other t4, not that they are bad)

So it's step 1 to 4 to unlock for each soul and step 5 for each element weapon for the soul?
or is it ultimate farming time and step 1 to 5 for every element and souls?

Originally Posted by Torkov

So it's step 1 to 4 to unlock for each soul and step 5 for each element weapon for the soul?
or is it ultimate farming time and step 1 to 5 for every element and souls?

To unlock the soul, u need to complete step 1 to 5
Then if you want to exchange new weapon for the soul you already unlock, you need to do step 5 only

man.... those T4 soul pics look like shit. i like the current T3 ones more... they r more badass and... have *full hearts*.

Those new T4 Souls will be less likely to get raped though, so it is a plus.

Kamihime was jokingly known as Rapihime in the begining for a reason.