Thread: Tier 4 Soul Megathread

Originally Posted by Nezha

I did the mistake to focus on Arthur early on, got her all Soul Weapons (even with +99). Now im in the transition to T4 and i wonder, should i go for Charlemagne or should i switch to Shingen and go for Yorimitsu? It will take a while for me to get another full set of Soul Weapons and the T4 Grind will be brutal anyway, i dont know if its worth it or if Charlemagne is "good enough".

I have a long, long overdue write-up about T4 Souls coming up. But the short version is:

First T4 Soul should be Medea of your strongest element.
Your second T4 Soul should be Yori, and preferably all element Lances (or at least all your strong elements).

Only after those are done should you be looking at other Souls, IMO. Explanations coming up once I bother writing the thing.


As for Charlemagne specifically, she is very underwhelming right now. She'll be decent for a T4 Soul once buffs hit, but we don't know when that'll be (June 2021 at the latest, so a long, long time away).

Originally Posted by Slashley

First T4 Soul should be Medea of your strongest element.
Your second T4 Soul should be Yori, and preferably all element Lances (or at least all your strong elements).

Thanks in advance !

I'm really curious to read your analysis - I'm at the last stage with Yori & my strongest element as my first unlock, but as it takes ages to farm the stupid book (lol, the pages OFC) I can start to unlock Medea too I think....

About the book of Heresy fragments - the only two sources are the Och battles and the raid medal exchange, am I correct ?

No, other guardians also gives you pages, but very small amount. Also, wouldn't spending medals on pages unless you emptied month's amount of shards/eyes/tickets.

As of Medea - she outperforms Solomon in tower very, very hard, so you ideally would like to get her weapons for all elements first, or at least for near towers. She also basically solo all stupid tedious grind ala caves/mq/etc

Originally Posted by Jessa

As of Medea - she outperforms Solomon in tower very, very hard, so you ideally would like to get her weapons for all elements first, or at least for near towers. She also basically solo all stupid tedious grind ala caves/mq/etc

Thanks, I'll certainly start to unlock her. As of the medals -

Also, wouldn't spending medals on pages unless you emptied month's amount of shards/eyes/tickets.

Atm I have 12 eyes, I've awakened all of the must have himes of my primary and secondary team (wind/light) so...but tickets ? Never considered them to be a priority over the pages...

Well, it comes down to how good is ssr himes pool at your disposal, but most ppl prefer to get them over pages. Also, regarding yeys, here comes

->Open Spoiler<-

50 eyes weapons at some point in future and they gotta be OP afaik

, so it's prolly better to hoard as much of eyes as it's possible for you.

Originally Posted by atis52

About the book of Heresy fragments - the only two sources are the Och battles and the raid medal exchange, am I correct ?

The primary way to get pages is through Raid Medals, by hosting Och and by MvPing Och. The latter of which is basically impossible for all but veterans.

The other source of pages is especially Guardians, as mentioned by Jessa. While they don't directly drop a lot (I think 2 max, which is extremely rare) they have a small chance of giving you a second daily Och which might give you a boatload of pages. And I guess I should mention that Disaster Rags can also drop them.

The problem here is that veterans probably just don't need Guardians anymore - there is a very limited amount of Treasure that you need, and once you've farmed them, you basically never need any anymore. The fact that even veterans are effectively forced to host one Guardian per day - for Och spawn - doesn't help. In other words, you might find it difficult to find the help to kill the damn things. Meanwhile, you can almost never have enough Magnas since each SSR that you get in the future will require 60 of them... ... ... nice system, devs.

Originally Posted by atis52

-- but tickets ? Never considered them to be a priority over the pages...

To be fair, the average expected outcome of any single ticket is fucking nothing.

But on the other hand, those tickets are cheap.

Jessa, Slashley, thanks for the answers

Woha, I never knew there is a possibility for a second Och spawn

Yeah, I noticed the Guardian battles, it's some 60-70 percent chance that it will just timeout during the day (I don't think kamihime is popular in Europe, I'm usually more successful in the early morning/late evening when the other side of the planet plays )

So time to rethink my farming prios.

Originally Posted by Slashley

I have a long, long overdue write-up about T4 Souls coming up.--

This is now up here.

That's one less thing on the to-do list.