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    Yeah those are good points.

    I included Hebe in that list (as opposed to many wind srs I excluded) as I do think she has some use. I actually used her for the same purpose at one point. However, I feel like the others I listed are better personally, but I could see a reason to include Hebe. You really sold Cyclops to me lol. I think you're right and her kit is maybe better than I stated. I'm less certain on the zeal heal only because I haven't probed into the numbers too much. Is there a point where she can drain more HP due to % dpt than she heals with a flat number? At some point I wonder if you need ascension in your grid to offset % dpt. But anyways, I had already said she was among the best thunder srs, though now I would add that under certain circumstances the cleanse and added gauge/regen can be quite nice. My problem with cleansing ability is that it is situational compared to some other sorts of utility (e.g. debuffs, raw damage, healing, all of which tend to have more universal usage). However, when you do need it, it's really nice to have, and cyclops being one of the few characters to pack it does give her an added niche. She already fills several niches anyways, so it's not like she needs the cleanse to be good regardless. tl;dr I would agree with everything you wrote above.

    Buer I just think is sooooo good, and after hearing what Jessa wrote above, I think that even more. If nothing else (excluding all other content), you could use her in practically any labyrinth event for infinite pot works. I think the next one is going to be for dark characters anyways, making her doubly good. I actually picked up Cernunnos just a couple days ago, and I'd agree she is pretty nice (as would be any character with a damage cut; I favor that utility a lot). I kinda dislike the conditional burst use for her damage cut ability, but I would agree that just having such utility probably makes her one of the best dark srs. I also value ability to tank hits for the team, hence my placement of Kishar and Yamaraja, and since Cernunnos can do that too, it also makes her a good candidate for a main unit.

    The way I rank SRs is kind of with the assumption that somebody literally has 0 SSRs in any given element, so characters with debuffs tend to be given priority. But if you have SSRs that can fill the same role as an SR (e.g. if you have an SSR with a 20% C frame defense debuff and an SR with a 15% C frame debuff), certain SRs can fall into relative disuse, and other SRs with more niche utility (e.g. Hebe with her stackable defense buff) could be a bit better. As I've acquired more SSRs I've noticed I don't use certain SRs as much which I used to like a lot more in the past. But I would still say those SRs are very good.
    Last edited by Ogawa; 06-22-2020 at 07:36 AM.

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    dark forseti seems pretty damn good for a limited sr she has a ability that gives 1+ orb to enemy, a stackable attack down and a stackable affliction rate up on the same ability that is also aoe and a stackable combo attack rate down abilty

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    Quote Originally Posted by powersurge View Post
    dark forseti seems pretty damn good for a limited sr she has a ability that gives 1+ orb to enemy, a stackable attack down and a stackable affliction rate up on the same ability that is also aoe and a stackable combo attack rate down abilty
    Got her this Sunday. Yeah her kit is very good. I believe that having Forseti and Cernunnos will give the team very high survivability.

    Definitively a good inclusion.

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