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    Oh hey, I haven't updated this in a while. I haven't really had the time. I put Ophiel and Phul in now.

    Och is out, and is entirely impossible to fight right now. Basically the raid instantly hits 25 people and then you get "server error" spam aaaaand... well, literally unplayable. Not even kidding, the only time I've taken more than one turn against Och is when I hosted my own. This probably won't last though, because...
    OCH ISN'T WORTH YOUR TIME.
    Yeah, there. I said it! People are going to realize this sooner or later.
    Don't. Fucking. Join. Och. Raids.

    Why? Because, unless you MVP or Vice, you get... nothing. Absolutely nothing. The Page droprate is the exact same as leeching Guardians/Rags, WITHOUT the 50% chance of Treasure/Magna. It is a complete waste of your time and you're better off joining ANY other raid than Och! Man, I thought the purple chest update was there to discourage people from leeching with their disgusting Dartagnan teams, but nope. Turns out, that system is designed to make Och more attractive.

    So yeah. Once people realize this, nobody is going to join Och raids anymore. I mean, once MVP is no longer physically possible (like say 33% HP lost)... ... why would you join Och? Just go leech something else. Literally anything else. There is ZERO benefit for helping others get THEIR rewards from Och.
    What a fucking joke.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Oh hey, I haven't updated this in a while. I haven't really had the time. I put Ophiel and Phul in now.

    Och is out, and is entirely impossible to fight right now. Basically the raid instantly hits 25 people and then you get "server error" spam aaaaand... well, literally unplayable. Not even kidding, the only time I've taken more than one turn against Och is when I hosted my own. This probably won't last though, because...
    OCH ISN'T WORTH YOUR TIME.
    Yeah, there. I said it! People are going to realize this sooner or later.
    Don't. Fucking. Join. Och. Raids.
    I did about a two dozen or so Ochs and got a small handful of pages (other than the base ones for my raid) today and I totally agree with you. What a total joke. There is nothing in that raid anybody other than the raid starter, MVP and coMVP needs. Not even more raid medals than a base guardian raid. I think you're absolutely right... participation will start dropping off fairly quickly once people get over the 'newness' factor.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Why? Because, unless you MVP or Vice, you get... nothing. Absolutely nothing. The Page droprate is the exact same as leeching Guardians/Rags, WITHOUT the 50% chance of Treasure/Magna. It is a complete waste of your time and you're better off joining ANY other raid than Och!
    I don't know about the drop rates being the exact same as rags/guardos. To me at least, it's a higher chance to get a page leeching Ochs. But yea, the rewards are a bit disappointing, even for mvp'ing. I've noticed you can get 1~3 pages mvp'ing. So the fact that as MVP, you can end up with exactly 1 page, the same as someone leeching is definitely disappointing. I was expecting something... better. For reference, you also have a chance of getting 2 pages mvp'ing other raids than och, so the fact that och mvp only ups that for a chance at 1 extra page is very... meh indeed. Really the only significant pages dropped are for the hosts themselves for the most part.

    But what else is there to do for those who need just those pages for S souls really. It is pretty much the only option, since not everyone is going to be buying those book gachas they'll no doubt be putting out every few months for whales like you. So for those farming within the game, Och still remains the best source for those pages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by VeryVoodoo View Post
    But what else is there to do for those who need just those pages for S souls really. It is pretty much the only option, since not everyone is going to be buying those book gachas they'll no doubt be putting out every few months for whales like you. So for those farming within the game, Och still remains the best source for those pages.
    This only holds true IF you MVP. Which will require manualing with extreme power levels. Something that isn't accessible for like, 98% of the playerbase.

    Therefore, it's much better to just fight Guardians or Rag Disaster. ~20% chance to get Page? Check. ~50% chance to get Treasure/Magna? Check. Much easier to MVP/Vice? Probably still impossible for like 80% of the playerbase, but check.

    Just forget about Och until Purple Chests update. Fight easier fights with better loot. Currently I still see that Ochs just fill up extremely fast, but people are going to realize that there are better options.

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    Och has finally been added. And with that, this thread is now done.

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