Thread: Phantom/Rainbow/Diabolos Unleashed Teams

If the SSR hime/eido you listed are the only 7 you have, might be a better idea to reroll for a different 100/140 eido. Only Marduk(after awakening) and Jupiter(after re-balance) will be useful for a long time compared to the rest.

As said, Rainbow teams are extreeeemely difficult to pull off. It can be done, even for newer players, but that doesn't mean that YOU can do it. Having options, options, options is key to Rainbow... and you simply don't have that. Like the best team that I can think of is Kali Satan on-element and Amaterasu... ... Marduk? For off-element. Not very impressive, but at least it gives you -45% Def -40% Atk once both are Awakened.

Originally Posted by CajunAppleTea

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The next biggest issue is the weapon grid. You still need to focus on one element, but also provide a little for the other two elements, meaning all weps you use require double/triple skills (ex: light soul wep, 4 light, 2 wind, 3 fire).--

What? No. Absolutely no. Never do this. You go full weapons on the element that has three Units in it. The other there are there purely for support, NOT for damage. ... there can be exceptions, like Take's bonus doesn't give a shit about Grid when Bursting.

Originally Posted by CajunAppleTea

If the SSR hime/eido you listed are the only 7 you have, might be a better idea to reroll for a different 100/140 eido. --

If the account isn't very old, can agree with this.

Again, thanks for the responses

Originally Posted by CajunAppleTea

If the SSR hime/eido you listed are the only 7 you have, might be a better idea to reroll for a different 100/140 eido.

The account has hraesvelgr as well as gale kaiser, so I probably won't reroll.

Originally Posted by Slashley

As said, Rainbow teams are extreeeemely difficult to pull off. It can be done, even for newer players, but that doesn't mean that YOU can do it. Having options, options, options is key to Rainbow... and you simply don't have that. Like the best team that I can think of is Kali Satan on-element and Amaterasu... ... Marduk? For off-element. Not very impressive, but at least it gives you -45% Def -40% Atk once both are Awakened.

My current setup is Cassiopeia (ex: ambush) Marduk, Takeminakata, Fodla, and Amaterasu. It works pretty well right now because Take's sword burst damage is good enough to clear most solo content (and I was able to do an unreasonably high amount of damage in the phantom UE due to the separate damage multipliers), but yeah, I can see it becoming less appealing as my grid becomes better. Like I said earlier, the team is temporary and I'll probably switch to wind eventually unless I pick up Fire Amon or just a ton of SSRs so I can have more options.

I always wanted to run rainbow teams, but more for memes, like Andro, Dian, Aphrodite, Fire Sol, Frigg sub Atum, Osiris or Joan, Raiko, Snow Raphy, BFM Amon, Gaia AW, sub light Athena, Pluto

Anyway, if you actually want a more practical rainbow team, the units I can think of off the top of my head that are good for rainbow are:

• Takeminakata as already mentioned - echo burst does not depend on grid; if you're not using her for dmg, you can also use her sword for 2 hit 100% dmg cut instead, making it much easier to keep her alive despite not being able to access defender weapon skills
• Gaia AW - her defenses work perfectly fine without access to weapon skills, and her 2/6T invulnerability makes it much easier to keep her alive
• BFM Amon - she buffs 4 elements and her BG gain and dmg cut works on everyone - she is also good if you're running dark main rainbow 'cos of her passive
• I would argue units like Michael AW and Aether are also good, assuming you can actually keep them alive

It looks like you only have Take out of those though...

Originally Posted by Slashley

You go full weapons on the element that has three Units in it. The other there are there purely for support, NOT for damage.

This, want to re-emphasize that this is the optimal way to go rainbow. Also, in case ppl are not aware of this, to max dmg, you pick a 100%+ eido matching the element of the three units, NOT another Dia U for support - that's how you take full advantage of the different multipliers.

Honestly though, if you have Hraes, I would just focus on your wind grid and mtix some wind himes if you're willing to spend. You can use rainbow in the meantime until your wind grid gets stronger, but rainbow is not a good long-term thing.

[DMM] Here's an example of a good rainbow setup. Notice how he still has FULL Thunder weps, because as Slashley said, they're there for support and not damage. Cthulhu for her debuffs, and Azazel for her insane buffs whilst having ThorAW/Baal U in main team with them.
SatanAW+RaphAW in subs for orb eats/debuffs. Debuff builds are the way to go.

Thanks for clearing up my misunderstanding/mistake everyone, didn't know how else to get hp on the sub elements. The video and the other posts are great references. How on earth does the guy in the video have 16k hp on cthulu and azazel though? Is it solely from the phantom gun?

Originally Posted by CajunAppleTea

How on earth does the guy in the video have 16k hp on cthulu and azazel though? Is it solely from the phantom gun?

10.8k-ish base hp, phantom gun = 30% and Diabolos unleashed = 20%, giving you 10.8k * (1 +30% +20%) = 16.2k-ish.

What I want to know is how he can get all the debuffs to stick on Och so consistently... Is Perseus' VoF that strong? Might change my order for unlocking T4 souls if it is, though that batch of T4 souls is like a year away for us anyway.