Thread: Kamihime - the journey of the first 2.5 years

Originally Posted by Slashley

But seriously, don't undersell P2W Eidolons. They are a massive game changer. I'm not sure about your 20% damage boost, since last time it was 25% when I checked. This, however, could be a figure from before Soul weapons and didn't assume elemental advantage, so eh, good enough I suppose. Still, in two months we're moving from 100%s to 160%s and ooooh boy, 20% isn't gonna cut it anymore.
Sure that's unfair since it is comparing 0-stars to 4-stars, but hey, Eidolon bricks are a thing even for free now.

The reason why they're not mentioned here is because they're not reliable for you to get - and rather difficult to split into eras. I mean, how would I categorize them? "Pre-P2W," "After P2W" and "by now 99% of people who didn't find P2W have either rerolled into one long ago or have outright quit in frustration" eras?

Maybe those make sense in a business standpoint? Dunno though, but some dude reportedly spent $1.000,00 looking for Cerberus.

If there were no p2w Eidolons, the game would be more fun, but dunno if more profitable:

1 - I could choose other Friend's Eidolons based on content and preferences. As it is now, I will always choose someone with a p2w.

2 - It wouldn't alienate some players. A noob with a p2w will make friends with other powerful players, join better unions, clear more content, than even a veteran without those.

3 - It wouldn't derail a topic about the game's past =P

I understand power creep, but I believe those 100% Eidolons could easily be 50-60% and still be sought after (Hraes and Nidhogg for example, would still be good, but I could use Behemoth or Sleipnir if my himes had debuffs covered. Belial and Rudra would be more trashy, as there is Ifrit and Typhoon with Attack+ already, and Fafnir has both Atk and Def+).

I'd also like if the Souls were more balanced, in order to restore this Era of Harmony. The "which soul to use" thread would have more varied responses than "just use Hercules or Shingen".

In resume, there is less strategic decisions when one equipment is way more overpowered than the others.

Originally Posted by Geo

Maybe those make sense in a business standpoint? Dunno though, but some dude reportedly spent $1.000,00 looking for Cerberus.

Just so you know, 1000 dollars is absolutely nothing in terms of whaling. There are people who are spending ten times that at least monthly even on Nutaku, I am pretty sure.

There is a reason why gachas/loot boxes are taking over video games so hard. Some people have ALL the money, and are willing to spend it. Reminder, 4200 dollars on average is what it takes to find a single P2W, so when you see somebody with 7 of them, that person has spent at least 30k money on the game. Probably ten times that in order to limit break them, partially through Eidolon bricks and partially through finding dupes.

So to the dude who got irritated by not getting Cerberus: you didn't spend enough!

But I watched a video on YouTube some time ago, about the FtP games. They are not about the skill, but about the time spent. The player will believe they have skills because they will tackle a complicated UI and lot of meaningless mechanics. The player will have incentives to spend some money in order to not waste his precious time grinding.

Heck, KamiPro is just like that!

1 - It has more than 7 currencies - Gems, Magic Jewels, Star Coins, Eidolon Orbs, Accessories Points, Tower Medals, Guild Medals, Orichalcon, Draconic Eyes, for example. Each Advent Battle is its own economy even!

2 - The player has to build his own weapon grid. In the Era of Harmony it was easy, just get Assault over Defender, but nowadays there is Ascencion, Exceed, Phantom, Rush, Vigoras...

3 - But regardless of all that, it will all come down to: "got a p2w?"