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    Time Management Guide

    TL;DR - Kamihime is a game with a lot of grind. Player should budget their time commitment and seek to maximize return on time investment. Normally, completing many small tasks with small rewards > completing few big tasks with big rewards.

    Hi all,

    Kamihime has many resources in the game, gems, jewels, tickets, materials etc etc. all of these are resources. But the single most valuable resource is YOUR TIME. How efficient you use your time has tremendous impact on how well you perform in the long run. Many mechanics in this game has random numbers (ie luck), but the Law of Large Numbers still applies. For example, each jewel gacha (cost = 300) has 3% chance of being SSR. Some people get lucky and get an SSR in a single roll. But most of us gets nothing. HOWEVER, if you roll the gacha 100,000 times, there is a 95% chance you get between 2946 and 3054 SSR's. In other words, the solution to RNG is BIG NUMBERS! And getting those big numbers requires you to be efficient with time management. And my advice is as follow:

    Set a Budget
    Set a budget how much you are willing to spend in respect of time or money into this game. Do not burn yourself out! Many players drop out of the game because of this.

    Read Guides
    Guides help you do the right thing. For starters: Beginner Guide. Nonsensei also has a newer guide.
    More advanced guides include weapons guide, accessories upgrade calculator, disaster and raid guides etc. There are game mechanics that if you don't understand it, you will find it time punishing.

    Join an Active Union
    You should join a union that is active on discord. Getting help with content goes a long way saving you time.

    Difficult vs Easy Content
    Easy content are contents that you can AAB. Get into a habit of using AAB wherever possible to save you time while you do other stuff online.
    Difficult contents are ones you need to click. Save these for burst hour (if it is a raid) or when you have a lot of time to spare. Avoid doing difficult content too often as the ROI on time is often not worthwhile.

    A classic example is AQ5 vs AQ4. AQ5 final boss hits for 100,000 dmg on overdrive. AQ4 hits for 10k. It is better to AAB AQ4 than to fight AQ5. Save your time for other stuff - like burst hour raids.

    Also, many hard contents can be partially completed - such as GO and Raid Events. Consider only completing them partially to get your SSR weapon or eido. Save your time for other easy stuff.

    Gem gacha
    Gemcha is a great source of material - R wpns, HE's, seeds, raid mats, etc. Make sure you pull all 15 rolls each day, as it helps you save time on farming. For this reason, you should do your daily gem quests.

    Daily Raid Quests
    Unless during burst hour, raids should be AAB'ed. It is not worthwhile to go for MVP. Instead, you can join up to 3 raids simultaneously and leech for drops.

    Daily Accessories Quests
    They should be AAB'ed unless it is an element you are building on.
    Accessories should be upgraded as follow:
    1. 20 N + junk SSR + 2000 gems -> LV 23 SSR
    2. 10 R + junk SSR + 2000 gems -> LV 23 SSR
    3. 20 SR + Good SSR + 2000 gems -> LV 37 SSR
    4. LV 37 SSR + 9 x LV 23 SSR + 1N + 37000 gems -> LV50 SSR

    Advent Event
    Some eidos and weapons are not that great. Considering skipping some of them. Prioritize the jewels.

    FLB Weapons
    FLB weapons are highly time consuming because you need to farm stars. Theres not much you can do about this other than burning time. You could be more diligent on what weapons you choose to FLB. Ask on discord channel to get proper advice on null grids for your preferred element. And don't get upset if you can't FLB them all. Your time is better spent clearing contents. Also, consider not MLB'ing himes to save you the precious stars - and your precious time.

    Shops
    Shopping takes time. Don't do it too often. Once a week is enough. This is especially the case for raid and advent events.


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    I don't do Gem Quests anymore, I get a lot of gems just by grinding other content.

    About the Stars, will there ever be an easier way to get them other than doing Daily Quests?
    Last edited by Geo; 10-06-2019 at 03:34 PM.

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    there is no easier way. you have to grind it thru. they will drop the AP required from 50 down to 30. but i m not sure if they boost the drop rate for the stars.

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    1) There is no single bad event eydo. If you don't need them - it's 750 orbs from event. Keyser costs 10k, t4 soul - 3k so you need a lot of them. + sometimes you may get Anubis/Magna/140% so you need a single element grid to maximize a performance so any eydo of chosen element is good.
    2) gems quests are almost never needed if your account isn't super new, you will get more then enough if you are not super space whale.
    3) forget about t3/t4 stars if you don't need them right now, drop rate will be much more soon
    4) i highly recommend to focus on t2 idea cores and fangs- they will be your main problem next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mraktar View Post
    4) i highly recommend to focus on t2 idea cores and fangs- they will be your main problem next year.
    hence the non-stop gemcha to build up that massive bank of materials without actually needing to farm it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    hence the non-stop gemcha to build up that massive bank of materials without actually needing to farm it.
    Next gem gacha rebalance will remove them and after it you will need a lot of them for t4 souls/flb etc. You will want to do all expert + ulti raids every day. How i miss expert+/ultimate+ raids from GBF (triple ap consumption, triple loot, a lot of time saved). So get as many as you can nowdays.

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    If you really want to save time get a minimum wage job and then spend that money on Kamihime. *shrug*

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    While not an overall bad post... there's a few things I want to nitpick about.
    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    -- Normally, completing many small tasks with small rewards > completing few big tasks with big rewards.
    While not exactly untrue, there's also the problems with loading screens. Let's face it, once you get decently powerful, you're spending like... over half of your time in freaking loading screen. At least the "Fight Again" button has taken a few loading screens away, but still, there is a point where completing big tasks are more valuable than small tasks, if only for the reason of avoiding loading screens.

    Now, if only that was possible for everything, such as farming T2 Cores. Nope, gotta spend like 90% of my time in loading screens during those.
    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    -- For example, each jewel gacha (cost = 300) has 3% chance of being SSR. Some people get lucky and get an SSR in a single roll. But most of us gets nothing. HOWEVER, if you roll the gacha 100,000 times, there is a 95% chance you get between 2946 and 3054 SSR's. In other words, the solution to RNG is BIG NUMBERS! And getting those big numbers requires you to be efficient with time management.
    I don't think you should be saying 3% to new players. It's 1.8% for SSR Hime and 1.2% for SSR Eidolons, the latter being basically useless for all non-whale intents and purposes.

    Soooo... please use 1.8% instead?
    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    Read Guides
    Guides help you do the right thing. For starters: Beginner Guide. Nonsensei also has a newer guide.
    On HBC, you should always use bold for links. Otherwise it's hard to notice that there is a link.

    Also, why isn't nonsensei's guide linked?
    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    Daily Accessories Quests
    They should be AAB'ed unless it is an element you are building on.
    Accessories should be upgraded as follow:
    1. 20 N + junk SSR + 2000 gems -> LV 23 SSR
    2. 10 R + junk SSR + 2000 gems -> LV 23 SSR
    3. 20 SR + Good SSR + 2000 gems -> LV 37 SSR
    4. LV 37 SSR + 9 x LV 23 SSR + 1N + 37000 gems -> LV50 SSR
    Is... is that smart? Does that work if you do AQ4?
    Ever since AQ5 came out, the drops for AQ4 changed drastically, so I can't say that WOULDN'T work... but 23 leveled up SSRs seem like quite a lot of effort.

    But I haven't bothered with item squishing Accessories ever since AQ5 guaranteed SSR drops, which is also true for AQ4 now. I prefer the 1-2-3-4 method, where you use 1 N, 2 Rs, 13 SRs (totally 3, right?) and 4 SSRs of the same element. This is easy to remember and pretty much exactly the halfway point to level 50 (so you don't waste any exp if you get a Super Success on your first try). It's also convenient for AQ5 drops while working on all elements, but if you focus on AQ4 and just one element... well, I can't comment.
    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    Advent Event
    Some eidos and weapons are not that great. Considering skipping some of them. Prioritize the jewels.
    ... are the Jewels important?
    As I said in another thread, you need ~120833 Jewels to find a top tier Hime from the gacha. Not exact maths, but just as a case of point. The point is, is that 3000 Jewels really going to do jackshit for you?

    Meanwhile, how is a new player supposed to know when an Eidolon is worth it and when it isn't? Especially these days when Advent event grind required has been significantly reduced, I don't think that you should brush off the Eidolon like that.
    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    FLB Weapons
    FLB weapons are highly time consuming because you need to farm stars. --
    I don't think new players are going to need T4 Crystals (aka Stars). The biggest usage of Stars was for Union Event FLBs, which required a whopping 25 each - further burdened by already having several copies of the weapons due to past events! But because good Union Event drops are basically history now (just one last final Wrath left)... well, I kinda doubt new players are going to be troubled by T4 Crystal drops.

    And this is before the drop changes which make Fangs harder to get and T4 Crystal far easier to get, supposedly...
    Quote Originally Posted by tyu View Post
    If you really want to save time get a minimum wage job and then spend that money on Kamihime. *shrug*
    I don't really think that's going to do much. First of all, minimum wage won't get you all that far in Kamihime.

    Second, even whales have to do the grind. There's very, very few offers for... say, Magnas to be bought with real life money. You would think that considering how DMM is in control of the droprates, the awful awful AWFUL droprates that we have were made in order to make people buy that shit. But no, they run a special about being able to buy a measly 20 for 30 bucks every couple of months. And you're limited to two packs! That's 40 Magnas, when you need 60 for a ONE SINGLE SSR HIME! It's absolutely insane when you think about it. Why are they choking the playerbase if they're not trying to exploit them...?

    Sure whaling gets you stronger, as you get more Hime to build teams from. And P2W Eidolons in particular are extremely strong, but those will cost you 4200 bucks on average. Yeah, try buying those with minimum wage!

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    QXZ, I just noticed that you don't have anything on efficient AAB builds yet in your main post, which I think may be helpful to add. It has saved me a lot of time at least since ppl pointed me to the way of Solomon. Here's my two cents on AAB efficiency:

    • For SP and main quests grind, get Solomon's key for your main element so her first ability becomes AoE. EX Rosenkreuz's AoE as well and you'll basically have 3 AoE abilities to clear exactly 3 rooms (Solomon's ring isn't technically AoE but once you're somewhat strong, it is essentially AoE for these grinds)
    • If your single attacks can kill mobs, green AB is actually slightly faster than Solomon red AAB 'cos Solomon's ring animation is kinda long and often she casts the ability dmg up skill, which slows things down unnecessarily (however, red AAB Solomon has the advantage of doubling as leveling team, so you waste less time and AP on exp caves on Sundays)
    • If you're a true efficiency freak, your farm team should have max drop rate accessories but NO tiara sets and ideally no DATA whatsoever - DATA-ing is extra animation for overkill dmg that does nothing but slows things down
    • For standard raids, Solomon can nuke it down by herself pretty easily
    • For expert raids, it is slightly harder to nuke it down with just Solomon, in which case put himes with lots of red abilities right after Solomon and order by debuff himes first (or if you don't mind clicking a little more, manually debuff first then AAB Solomon)
    • If you run alts, it's best to do the daily grind together so you click AAB while the other is on loading screen as that's often the bottleneck as Slashley mentioned


    Quote Originally Posted by QXZ View Post
    Set a Budget
    Set a budget how much you are willing to spend in respect of time or money into this game. Do not burn yourself out! Many players drop out of the game because of this.
    Also try your best not to compare with others (which admittedly is incredibly difficult for online games.) There are a lot of very active vets in this game, and trying to catch up to them quickly will require you to play KH full-time as well as bankrupt you from whaling. Set goals that are realistic for your budget and try to have fun from the journey as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    As I said in another thread, you need ~120833 Jewels to find a top tier Hime from the gacha. Not exact maths, but just as a case of point. The point is, is that 3000 Jewels really going to do jackshit for you?
    Non-top tier himes can still be useful though. At the very least, useful in tower; good dupes may actually be worth more than a hime for end-game, and any dupes give you eyes, which is 1/20 brick if you have absolutely no other use for it. Using 1.8%, you get a SSR hime per 16,666 jewels on average, which is about 1.5 months-ish worth of events, less if you rank well in competitive stuff and from login bonuses and what not. As long as the law of large numbers applies, you'll get your share of SSR balls eventually.

    If you really have no use for a particular advent eido/weapon, they're just orbs and fodder, so a fraction of a chance of getting something that cannot be farmed is indeed more useful imo (although the eido and first weapon are pretty cheap to farm anyway.) Gacha is a lottery, but it's better to play the lottery than to get fodder you can get elsewhere, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    But no, they run a special about being able to buy a measly 20 for 30 bucks every couple of months. And you're limited to two packs! That's 40 Magnas, when you need 60 for a ONE SINGLE SSR HIME! It's absolutely insane when you think about it. Why are they choking the playerbase if they're not trying to exploit them...?
    Slightly off-topic but the funniest thing I found about that gacha is that they advertised it as something to help with the advent boss: if you're struggling with the advent boss, you won't have any good accessories and having one slot unlocked with some unleveled accessories isn't gonna help you much

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    wow such a heated discussion

    the guide is good to follow.
    but it could be simplified for - The new players should...
    1.Reroll for top eidos
    2.Reroll for top eidos
    3.Gem gacha is your friend. abuse it as much as u can
    4.Leeching is not smthing to be ashamed for, abuse it as much as u can
    5.If weapon dont have assault as a skill, be advised to check da inet for finding if it is shit or way more shit

    666 - have fun. after all, thats just a hentai game. and a game should bring you fun, uknow

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