Seraph Union Megathread

**Delete** · 04-29-2020

Seraph Temperance, Ultimate Ranks

Rank 1 Isekai - 1005
Rank 2 Akatsuki - 760
Rank 3 Ixion - 712
Rank 4 Dark Hell - 710
Rank 5 Susurrus - 677
Rank 6 Weeb Wanks - 670
Rank 7 WindSoughs - 642
Rank 8 Stardust - 629
Rank 9 Khaos - 626
Rank 10 ToF - 619
Rank 11 Pandorika - 608
Rank 12 Amaterasu - 599
Rank 13 Death Lotus - 558
Rank 14 Cybeast v7 - 552
Rank 15 Axis Mundi - 547
Rank 16 Drama Club - 539
Rank 17 "Chinese Name" - 509
Rank 18 GodTamers - 506
Rank 19 Perfection - 468
Rank 20 Kami Sutra - 454

**Delete** · 06-18-2020

Seraph Humility, Ultimate Ranks

Rank 1 Isekai - 1114
Rank 2 Ixion - 982
Rank 3 WindSoughs - 964
Rank 4 Akatsuki - 940
Rank 5 Weeb Wanks - 916
Rank 6 Amaterasu - 888
Rank 7 Dark Hell - 884
Rank 8 ToF - 843
Rank 9 Khaos - 826
Rank 10 Susurrus - 760
Rank 11 Drama Club - 719
Rank 12 Perfection - 685
Rank 13 Stardust - 673
Rank 14 Death Lotus - 639
Rank 15 Kami Sutra - 637
Rank 16 Cybeast v7 - 619
Rank 17 Red Phantom - 609
Rank 18 "Chinese Name" - 596
Rank 19 Gacha - 550
Rank 20 Axis Mundi - 542

**Slashley** · 03-04-2021

Har, it seems like Delete hasn't posted rankings for... uh, the past 18 months or so. Oh well.

So since Demons are back, I guess it's time to make the list again. This might be the thread for Angel events, but whatever, right?
Envy#billion has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:
Experts:

->Open Spoiler<-

Ultimates:

->Open Spoiler<-

PP:

->Open Spoiler<-

Good work, everyone.

**Slashley** · 05-03-2021

Pride#billion has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

->Open Spoiler<-

Good work, everyone.

**Slashley** · 07-04-2021

So, Sloth#billion has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

->Open Spoiler<-

Good work, everyone.

Next Union Event will be updated. Probably most important change: only one push day! Hooray!

**Slashley** · 07-29-2021

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

->Open Spoiler<-

Good work, everyone. I guess.

Well then. This was an interesting one. Honestly? What a mess. Let's see if we can dig into this a bit.

As this was the first UE with Union Medal awards, DMM loosened up on their rewards. What I said in another thread:
- Personal rankings are 3500 Medals for 1-50, 51-100 3000, 2500 101-200, etc.
For us, the 3500 Medals was for top5. Heck, we had 1-5 (3500), 6-10 (3000), 11-15 (2500), 16-30 (2250), 31-50 (2000)... so we had FIVE brackets where DMM had ONE. Well, DMM is far, FAR more populated, so make no mistake - getting into top50 there is a COMPLETELY different story than in here. Nonetheless, they probably overshot that reward squish juuuuust a little bit.

Secondly, as this was the case on DMM, you now need 20m personal PP for full rewards. That's... ... that's no joke. That's up from 3.5m. And 20m is a HORRENDOUS amount for a person in small Union to get... I don't think that was very wise of them.

Anyway, these two things meant one thing: botting got wild. And I mean WILD. Let's face it, botting has always been a problem on Nutaku and chances are also on DMM, but jesus fuck. So I got 28m personal PP, and I'm rank 541. Seeing as we have about ~1000 players in total (very much looking forward to Moroboshi's next post for this event), that's... pretty insane. But of course, most people who botted didn't bot for the 20m, they botted for the top. So, let's have a little look at how the top Unions break down in top20. This is simply:
(the combined score of that Union's players who are in top20) / (Union's total score)

->Open Spoiler<-

Now, what do these percentages mean? Well it implies the chance of a Union using bots. The more people use bots, the more they show up on the leaderboard, and thus the more likely that a larger portion of Union score is on those bots. We also have to remember that the more people/bots are running, the faster they kill the low level Demons and thus the more and more PP the Union can rack up (as we all know, loading times are the biggest enemy in Union events). This is why TsukiKishi shows up so high on the list - when one person does THAT much out of the Union's total, it's highly suspicious. Almost as if this one person didn't have any loading times or something. How mysterious! I wonder how that could be.

So yeah, while not absolute proof, the higher a Union is on that list, the higher the chances are that they're botting - possibly even coordinating it. Of course, since ranking was live this time around, you get around something like this by just stopping bots before they reach top20. Like, I'd be shocked if 20something had ZERO bots. In any event, this list is merely implying implications, so it is no proof of anyone botting or not botting. Just pointing out who are LIKELY to be botting.
And let's face it Isekai botted like crazy what the fuck guys.

But yeah. Supposedly there has been some lip service on Discord that the rewards will be loosened up and something will be done against the bots, but I think there is no chance of that actually happening. But maybe loosened rewards will make people bot less since there is less pressure to get the rewards. Doubt it though.

Welcome to Kamihime botting, I hope you enjoy your stay.

**Dejnov** · 07-29-2021

Originally Posted by Slashley

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

Anyway, these two things meant one thing: botting got wild. And I mean WILD. Let's face it, botting has always been a problem on Nutaku and chances are also on DMM, but jesus fuck. So I got 28m personal PP, and I'm rank 541. Seeing as we have about ~1000 players in total (very much looking forward to Moroboshi's next post for this event), that's... pretty insane. But of course, most people who botted didn't bot for the 20m, they botted for the top. So, let's have a little look at how the top Unions break down in top20. This is simply:
(the combined score of that Union's players who are in top20) / (Union's total score)

->Open Spoiler<-

Now, what do these percentages mean? Well it implies the chance of a Union using bots. The more people use bots, the more they show up on the leaderboard, and thus the more likely that a larger portion of Union score is on those bots. We also have to remember that the more people/bots are running, the faster they kill the low level Demons and thus the more and more PP the Union can rack up (as we all know, loading times are the biggest enemy in Union events). This is why TsukiKishi shows up so high on the list - when one person does THAT much out of the Union's total, it's highly suspicious. Almost as if this one person didn't have any loading times or something. How mysterious! I wonder how that could be.

So yeah, while not absolute proof, the higher a Union is on that list, the higher the chances are that they're botting - possibly even coordinating it. Of course, since ranking was live this time around, you get around something like this by just stopping bots before they reach top20. Like, I'd be shocked if 20something had ZERO bots. In any event, this list is merely implying implications, so it is no proof of anyone botting or not botting. Just pointing out who are LIKELY to be botting.
And let's face it Isekai botted like crazy what the fuck guys.

Just a quick product of your estimation gives around 93.7 potential bots in the game right now. IF the current field of players is around 1000 then we have nearly 10% of the game population that is here using a bot. At that level of infection the developers can't do anything for the game. They can't generate new player interest (due to outrageous botting) and they can't get rid of the botters either as the game population would basically implode if they did (remember those who bot tend to also spend...).

Dejnov.
And aren't you in Isekai??? WTH man...

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