Thread: Seraph Union Megathread

Originally Posted by Slashley

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

Anyway, these two things meant one thing: botting got wild. And I mean WILD. Let's face it, botting has always been a problem on Nutaku and chances are also on DMM, but jesus fuck. So I got 28m personal PP, and I'm rank 541. Seeing as we have about ~1000 players in total (very much looking forward to Moroboshi's next post for this event), that's... pretty insane. But of course, most people who botted didn't bot for the 20m, they botted for the top. So, let's have a little look at how the top Unions break down in top20. This is simply:
(the combined score of that Union's players who are in top20) / (Union's total score)

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IronBlades [20]			100% (no data, but hey, we all know it is 100%)
Isekai [23]			 52%
TsukiKishi [29]			 38%
Пандорика (Pandorika) [19]	 33%
談笑颩甡學習俓驗 [29]		 27%
(moonrunes) [30]		 27%
Weeb Wanks [28]			 27%
Glitter [22]			 23%
Susurrus [24]			 18%
CybeastV15 [29]			 15%
DarkHell [30]			 13%
ToF [30]			 11%
20something [30]		  0%
DeathLotus [28]			  0%
[] indicates how many people have logged in during the last 7 days in that Union, so possible participants.

Now, what do these percentages mean? Well it implies the chance of a Union using bots. The more people use bots, the more they show up on the leaderboard, and thus the more likely that a larger portion of Union score is on those bots. We also have to remember that the more people/bots are running, the faster they kill the low level Demons and thus the more and more PP the Union can rack up (as we all know, loading times are the biggest enemy in Union events). This is why TsukiKishi shows up so high on the list - when one person does THAT much out of the Union's total, it's highly suspicious. Almost as if this one person didn't have any loading times or something. How mysterious! I wonder how that could be.

So yeah, while not absolute proof, the higher a Union is on that list, the higher the chances are that they're botting - possibly even coordinating it. Of course, since ranking was live this time around, you get around something like this by just stopping bots before they reach top20. Like, I'd be shocked if 20something had ZERO bots. In any event, this list is merely implying implications, so it is no proof of anyone botting or not botting. Just pointing out who are LIKELY to be botting.
And let's face it Isekai botted like crazy what the fuck guys.

Just a quick product of your estimation gives around 93.7 potential bots in the game right now. IF the current field of players is around 1000 then we have nearly 10% of the game population that is here using a bot. At that level of infection the developers can't do anything for the game. They can't generate new player interest (due to outrageous botting) and they can't get rid of the botters either as the game population would basically implode if they did (remember those who bot tend to also spend...).


Dejnov.
And aren't you in Isekai??? WTH man...

So, this event has ended. For future reference, here are the winners:

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Unions:

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01. 20something		4097m
02. 談笑颩甡學習俓驗	4031m (Talking and laughing)
03. ToF			3928m
04. Isekai		3424m
05. Weeb Wanks		2769m
06. (moonrunes)#2	2680m
07. CybeastV15		2061m
08. H VIP		2009m
09. DeathLotus		1853m
10. DarkHell		1768m
...
??. IronBlades

PP:

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01. Ebisus		406m (IronBlade)
02. FFF			406m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
03. Char Aznable	362m (DarkHell)
04. hutao		361m (H VIP)
05. AsD2038		356m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
06. God Of War 		349m (Isekai)
07. RNGabc 		348m ((moonrunes#2))
08. Yion 		348m (Isekai)
09. Sunimei 		340m (ToF)
10. (moonrunes)#1	337m (20something)
11. Lovemachine		329m (Isekai)
12. Whale		326m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
13. Gold		322m (Isekai)
14. baka123		317m (H VIP)
15. (moonrunes)#2	314m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
16. Skybullet		297m (ToF)
17. EuroDogKing		297m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
18. (moonrunes)#3	296m (20something)
19. ProtossAfterLife	289m (Isekai)
20. 32ELoliHave18cmDick	283m (談笑颩甡學習俓驗 (Talking and laughing))
...
566. Slashley		27m (Isekai)

Good work, everyone.

Originally Posted by Dejnov

Just a quick product of your estimation gives around 93.7 potential bots in the game right now.

That... is so much not what that's meant to mean. But hey, I guess it goes to show that humans are the ones that interpret the numbers.

What I personally meant was that the higher % a Union gets, the more likely it is that they have a botter. Or several. If they internally encourage cheating, they're going to have several. But for example TsukiKishi extremely likely only had one botter with their 38% score/rating/whatever you want to call it, NOT that 38% of their 29 players are botting.

And on that note, Talking and laughing pushed basically all non-top10 Unions out of the personal rankings. Using the same maths as before, they got 49% and Isekai got 47%. Yup, surely neither Union encourage botting at all. Clean as fresh laundry.