Thread: Turtling guide - the why, the how and the when

As much as this info is extremely useful for those who doesn't have a strong grid and/or 100% eids, there is a tiny, yet crucial problem. And it's about dmg cut eid from friend (well at least what you get from scrolling before going to challenge), it's still pretty rare to run across to find them. People would still equip their event / gacha (like MLB fafnir, etc) eids as main instead, even in phantom main (anzu/vlad/dia domination).

Well if this happens and your friend list equip their best eids then dying over and over at the same level starting from 15+, then it's better to use Joan with at least one healer per level here, only if you DO have like 5 healers/element, but the prob is gacha pool sucks and you have to wait for the CD to allow them to get back to battle.

With this situation, Joan along with her HP weapon is slightly better to use. (unless if have gigaton hp on your team thanks to gun build) 60% + 25% dmg cut is likely better opt to run along with 100% eids.

Originally Posted by Satou

As much as this info is extremely useful for those who doesn't have a strong grid and/or 100% eids, there is a tiny, yet crucial problem. And it's about dmg cut eid from friend (well at least what you get from scrolling before going to challenge), it's still pretty rare to run across to find them. People would still equip their event / gacha (like MLB fafnir, etc) eids as main instead, even in phantom main (anzu/vlad/dia domination).

Ah, true. However, I don't really see this is as a problem.

Kamihime is a multiplayer game. Communication is key. Simply talk to your Union mates about you wanting to turtle something, befriend them, get them to show up in your list... and there, you're ready to go.
For the... self-sufficient players, you can always make an alt account just for these Eidolons. This is against Nutaku's ToS however, so I wouldn't recommend it.

Originally Posted by Satou

As much as this info is extremely useful for those who doesn't have a strong grid and/or 100% eids, there is a tiny, yet crucial problem. And it's about dmg cut eid from friend (well at least what you get from scrolling before going to challenge), it's still pretty rare to run across to find them. People would still equip their event / gacha (like MLB fafnir, etc) eids as main instead, even in phantom main (anzu/vlad/dia domination).

Well if this happens and your friend list equip their best eids then dying over and over at the same level starting from 15+, then it's better to use Joan with at least one healer per level here, only if you DO have like 5 healers/element, but the prob is gacha pool sucks and you have to wait for the CD to allow them to get back to battle.

With this situation, Joan along with her HP weapon is slightly better to use. (unless if have gigaton hp on your team thanks to gun build) 60% + 25% dmg cut is likely better opt to run along with 100% eids.

The best time to turtle is obviously during Tower (as you only get one try and on element clears of higher floors are totally worth it close to 600 possible bricks) that you really want to employ it at that time. Putting your DR Eido into your element or phantom slot (as with other union members) helps getting that second DR Eido.

Or you can be like Dream, and just AAB every rag/guardian raid with a DR Eido. Open to all (and I mean all!) and still pretty much guarantee never dying and clearing the raid easily! This is best used when you are doing something else at the same time (like during work) and you can just leave the AAB on for like 30-40 minutes for the raid to clear!


Dejnov.


P.S. Andro tends to win out over Joan with high ascension grids since defense/exceed is useless and assault is marginally useful.

As for friend-list folks equipping useful Eidolons, don't the choices you get go off of the Support Eidolons they put in the element tabs in their Profile, and not the ones they actually have equipped?

I noticed a spike in my daily "you've been chosen for support" summary after I equipped a Loot Drop Eidolon into the support tab for its element, but I don't actually use that Eidolon in my main party setups.

Originally Posted by Monkey Boy

As for friend-list folks equipping useful Eidolons, don't the choices you get go off of the Support Eidolons they put in the element tabs in their Profile, and not the ones they actually have equipped?

Yes. Which is why communication is key, you need to tell your friends to put those into their profiles.

Or, if you have good friends, they'll put whatever is the correct one for the ongoing event in Phantom slot during turtling days.

Thing is, those sr dragons also a pain in the ass to get hands on. I'm here for a some time, and have zero flb dragons yet.

Originally Posted by Jessa

Thing is, those sr dragons also a pain in the ass to get hands on. I'm here for a some time, and have zero flb dragons yet.

MLB. FLB is for some weapons only, the limit break that costs Ori.

And yes, because the SR Dragoons are not in Gem Gacha, they're much rarer than the other SR Eidolons now. Still, you only need to two copies and the rest you can limit break with Eidolon Orbs if needed.

Ye, thanks for the correction. And also, for a reminder about limit breaking with orbs, i've totally forgot about such a possibility.