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    It would really help new players by listing the skills on each weapon. The list above (with weapon skills) will help new players know what veterans usually look for in a weapon that is worthy of being bricked.


    Dejnov.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dejnov View Post
    It would really help new players by listing the skills on each weapon. The list above (with weapon skills) will help new players know what veterans usually look for in a weapon that is worthy of being bricked.
    Good point. I'll add it
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    Well well... somebody else who also loves Vigor and Ascension.

    I approve!!



    Dejnov.

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    You should probably add weapon types, since synergy between different brick targets is fairly important when considering Phantom Grids.

    I'd say that you're missing Athena Lance from Thunder. Because 36% HP and 15% Assault is no joke from a single weapon.
    Quote Originally Posted by Dejnov View Post
    Well well... somebody else who also loves Vigor and Ascension.

    I approve!!
    It's most likely more about "triple skill weapons that don't go into hopeless stats (like Elaborate/Crit)" than anything else. Because those weapons are few and far between.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    You should probably add weapon types, since synergy between different brick targets is fairly important when considering Phantom Grids.
    That's...very true. I'll add it. Thanks for the suggestion.

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    I'd say that you're missing Athena Lance from Thunder. Because 36% HP and 15% Assault is no joke from a single weapon.
    I was debating Athena's lance as well since it is an extremely solid weapon, but I ultimately decided that it was not worth it. Because it takes so long to get a gacha/draco eye wep to FLB (if you don't buy grab bags), I feel like every weapon that you brick in thunder has to either...

    i) Effectively contribute towards completing a phantom weapon requirement
    OR
    ii) Provide strong exceed in a time when it's pretty rare to find outside of guardian weapons (and thunder does not have an exceed guard wep)

    Currently, a thunder lance grid is not really all that great unless you have a ton of bricks stocked (for Athena and Baal U lances) or have played long enough to pick up multiple copies of the UE thunder lance. I mean you could use Phul lances as grid filler, but if you're grinding for those, then you might as well pick up the Phul gun instead because it is the far superior weapon in my opinion. Although to be fair, thunder lance might make a comeback when demon UE's are reintroduced, but that time is not now so I'm going to leave it off the list...for now. Although if you feel there is some aspect I may have missed, I'm totally up for discussing it with you Slash.
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    Oh, NOW I am double posting, since apparently Modsyl saved me from it last time while I was typing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Modsyl View Post
    I was debating Athena's lance as well since it is an extremely solid weapon, but I ultimately decided that it was not worth it. Because it takes so long to get a gacha/draco eye wep to FLB (if you don't buy grab bags), I feel like every weapon that you brick in thunder has to either...

    i) Effectively contribute towards completing a phantom weapon requirement
    OR
    ii) Provide strong exceed in a time when it's pretty rare to find outside of guardian weapons (and thunder does not have an exceed guard wep)
    Fair enough.

    Personally, I'd rather list:
    1. All the dual-Assaults.
    2. All triple skill weapons that doesn't touch the useless stuff (Ability, Crit, Double, Triple).
    By this definition, Athena Lance shows up. Not sure if anything else does. I have never bothered to check. People have made such lists in Q&A, but they are now buried within the sands of time. And outdated.

    Buuut then when you start going the path that adds new stuff, you end up asking should you also include decent Exceed weapons? Like all Assault/Exceed weapons. And then you're on a slippery slope, on the one-way road to adding up all the weapons and oh god how did this become so bloated this was supposed to be just a simple list and do I fix it?!
    I swear that happens to all of my projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Buuut then when you start going the path that adds new stuff, you end up asking should you also include decent Exceed weapons? Like all Assault/Exceed weapons. And then you're on a slippery slope, on the one-way road to adding up all the weapons and oh god how did this become so bloated this was supposed to be just a simple list and do I fix it?!
    Hmmm...maybe not ALL of them (and actually probably not most of them haha). I'm only really including the assault/exceed weapons that will be meta picks for the considerable future, which are, for the most part, the draco eye weps with strong exceed and the triple skill weapons with strong exceed and a useful third skill.
    In other words, I'm somewhat correcting my previous post with this one

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    And then you're on a slippery slope, on the one-way road to adding up all the weapons and oh god how did this become so bloated this was supposed to be just a simple list and do I fix it?!
    Yeah, I was having this problem when I was compiling the list, so I tried to keep things simple. Thus far, I've only included weapons that are mostly undisputed as worthy brick targets among higher level players (the ones that are more disputed have asterisks). I've also kept many of the more situational weapons off the list (Mike Lance, Cu Chulann Lance) just to prevent any newer players from accidentally bricking a certain weapon for the wrong reasons. Hopefully, this makes the list more accurate (although maybe not all-encompassing).

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