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    Oh, NOW I am double posting, since apparently Modsyl saved me from it last time while I was typing.
    Quote Originally Posted by Modsyl View Post
    I was debating Athena's lance as well since it is an extremely solid weapon, but I ultimately decided that it was not worth it. Because it takes so long to get a gacha/draco eye wep to FLB (if you don't buy grab bags), I feel like every weapon that you brick in thunder has to either...

    i) Effectively contribute towards completing a phantom weapon requirement
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    ii) Provide strong exceed in a time when it's pretty rare to find outside of guardian weapons (and thunder does not have an exceed guard wep)
    Fair enough.

    Personally, I'd rather list:
    1. All the dual-Assaults.
    2. All triple skill weapons that doesn't touch the useless stuff (Ability, Crit, Double, Triple).
    By this definition, Athena Lance shows up. Not sure if anything else does. I have never bothered to check. People have made such lists in Q&A, but they are now buried within the sands of time. And outdated.

    Buuut then when you start going the path that adds new stuff, you end up asking should you also include decent Exceed weapons? Like all Assault/Exceed weapons. And then you're on a slippery slope, on the one-way road to adding up all the weapons and oh god how did this become so bloated this was supposed to be just a simple list and do I fix it?!
    I swear that happens to all of my projects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    Buuut then when you start going the path that adds new stuff, you end up asking should you also include decent Exceed weapons? Like all Assault/Exceed weapons. And then you're on a slippery slope, on the one-way road to adding up all the weapons and oh god how did this become so bloated this was supposed to be just a simple list and do I fix it?!
    Hmmm...maybe not ALL of them (and actually probably not most of them haha). I'm only really including the assault/exceed weapons that will be meta picks for the considerable future, which are, for the most part, the draco eye weps with strong exceed and the triple skill weapons with strong exceed and a useful third skill.
    In other words, I'm somewhat correcting my previous post with this one

    Quote Originally Posted by Slashley View Post
    And then you're on a slippery slope, on the one-way road to adding up all the weapons and oh god how did this become so bloated this was supposed to be just a simple list and do I fix it?!
    Yeah, I was having this problem when I was compiling the list, so I tried to keep things simple. Thus far, I've only included weapons that are mostly undisputed as worthy brick targets among higher level players (the ones that are more disputed have asterisks). I've also kept many of the more situational weapons off the list (Mike Lance, Cu Chulann Lance) just to prevent any newer players from accidentally bricking a certain weapon for the wrong reasons. Hopefully, this makes the list more accurate (although maybe not all-encompassing).

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    I wanna add something when it comes to wep skill exceed. The reason why some weps with only 2 skills (exceed + something), may look enticing is that most newer players (at least 11 months because thats when i started), have few options due to missing almost all the old UEs.

    However, imo (after planning 3 grids and almost completing 1 atm), bricking those 2 skill weps(exceed +1) is most likely not worth it, unless its a wep that fits your phantom wep and you'll be using it anyway. Best option for newer players is to get exceed off guardian weps as they're mostly pretty flexible and of course free (with farming). They can fit your grids easily and will hold you over for the next year till old UEs resurface.

    Theres a bunch of weps you can add to OPs list also. A lot of the newer kamis have useful triple skill weps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    However, imo (after planning 3 grids and almost completing 1 atm), bricking those 2 skill weps(exceed +1) is most likely not worth it, unless its a wep that fits your phantom wep and you'll be using it anyway. Best option for newer players is to get exceed off guardian weps as they're mostly pretty flexible and of course free (with farming). They can fit your grids easily and will hold you over for the next year till old UEs resurface.
    I can see where you're coming from and I agree with you for the most part that assault/exceed only weapons are not worth the brick unless its for a phantom weapon. However, I think there are a few exceptions that are worth mentioning. Merc axe is BY FAR the best weapon in water to brick right now because of water's lack of strong exceed weapons. It's so important to water grids at the moment that some water whales roughly measure strength based on how many mercs you have in your grid (not the most accurate method in the world and is a bit dated, but it just shows how crucial mercs are for water right now). Ukko axe and maybe Golden Staff are also notable since they are the hardest hitting exceed weapons for their respective elements as far as I know, but they are not nearly as important as merc is for water.

    Draco eye weps will also be getting buffed some time down the road, so there's another reason to invest in mercs and ukkos.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nik View Post
    Theres a bunch of weps you can add to OPs list also. A lot of the newer kamis have useful triple skill weps.
    Oh right, thanks for the heads up. I'll make sure to look into them. If you have any suggestions for additions to the list, they would be greatly appreciated.
    Last edited by Modsyl; 05-22-2020 at 12:33 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Modsyl View Post
    Draco eye weps will also be getting buffed some time down the road, so there's another reason to invest in mercs and ukkos.
    They are getting buffed, sure, but the buff isn't massive. Does Ascalon going from Assault(L) + Pride(M) -> Assault(L) + Pride(L) make it better? Absolutely. Are you going to brick it over good triple skill weapons? Prooobably not.

    I think the biggest winner will be Merc Axes, since just two of them will hit burst damage at that point.
    While Ukko Axe has a similar gain, Thunder has access to Marduk Hammers which make Exceed less important for Thunder.

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