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  1. #21
    I feel like people really missed the point of the original post quoted in this thread. When people discuss SC in 5 crystal increments It should be pretty obvious from context that the point of comparison is Premium Summon vs. what you can acquire by purchasing 5 refills. Betty doesn't actually require you to spend SC for her ability to work or anything crazy like that. Her ability works automatically and the maths involved were merely demonstrating that Betty grinding is effective enough to be competitive with Premium Summons, particularly if you're fishing for silver fodder.


  2. #22
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    Glad to see this thread developing I decided to awaken my Betty after my Aria was done and leveled back up a bit and have been seeing how well she can farm gold.

    I've been doing Return to Ruins 23 Chr for 1500k Base + roughly an extra 1500 from Gold Get. Was using the lvl 14 drops to level up units instead of selling. Works OK once Betty is leveled up enough to 2 shot red goblins (about lv50 with Aria's +2% and Prince bonus)

  3. Figured I'd drop this here

    As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

    Pastoral Gate - 40 times
    Mysterious Beast - 20 times
    The Royal Road (mentioned by lolix) - 21/22 times (21.8)
    Dragon Hunting (also mentioned by lolix) - 12/13 times (12.9)

    So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.
    Last edited by Buster Wolf; 03-13-2016 at 08:22 PM.

  4. #24
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster Wolf View Post
    Figured I'd drop this here

    As mentioned the max amount of Charisma on a daily cycle is 480 (20 per hour, 24 hours. Assuming you never stay full on Charisma) taking into consideration the amount of times you can run the maps you can run

    So you might want to calculate the average gold you could get based on that.
    That does factor in to our thinking but we resolve that by dividing Average Gold Gain [(Base + G-Get)* Multipler + Unit Sell] by the stamina Chr used. X/12 , Y/37 , etc. Once that is calculated you will know which is more efficient irregardless of how many times you need/want to run it.

    It will probably be found that Pastoral Gate is the most efficient for pure gold gain. The Jpn Wiki says this but I couldn't find any calculations to support that statement. What we will probably end up determining is which stage you should run to get a "Fairly High Gold Gain" With Useful XP Fodder Units.

    E.g.
    Pastoral Gate:
    Charisma Cost = 12
    Stage XP (/Chr) = 123 (10.25)
    Base 3* Gold (/Chr) = 900 (75.00)
    No. Units Betty Can kill [Av Gold Gain] (AvGG/Chr) = 43 out of 45 [at 10% = Average of +1200 Gold for 3*] (100.00)
    No of Unit Drops 5
    Soldier (Bow) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
    Soldier (Unit) [3] x2 EXP:50 (55 Same Class) Sell Value 300
    Royal Soldier Hector [3] x1 EXP:80 (88 Same Class) Sell Value 500
    (Don't have drop rate %'s but they could be deduced fairly accurately from a large datapool.)

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    As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.

  6. Quote Originally Posted by Askeladd View Post




    As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.
    Yes, now if only some of us had the luck necessary to have more silver rogues for AW fodder :P
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askeladd View Post




    As soon as I reach lvl 192 (186 as of now) the Pastoral Gate farm will begin. Can also use Lyla as extra support.
    I want also a mincost Betty D:

  8. #28
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    I want also a mincost Betty D:
    sink in another 450 SCs next betty spotlight. likely to give you enough bettys to mincost her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soranokira View Post
    sink in another 450 SCs next betty spotlight. likely to give you enough bettys to mincost her.
    Always these ridicululous ideas from soran, it'll take only 25 sc. I'm at least blessed by the luck goddess Tenhou

  10. #30
    I actually had ridiculous luck with Betty. Had 5 spares of her (seems she loves me) and that resulted in max CR, 4/5 skill. One spirit of Rainbow aaaand... it's done!

    Then there's Lyla, who required 6 rainbows to go from Skill level 3 to 4...

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