Thread: plat units = to blacks

Dont hit me if i want breaks more :c cuz most of my units needs leveling (well plat ones at least) And got so much free time to read all the stuff here, you guys speak the same thing at least 5-6 times over and over, we dont even have nadia, could you please compare nutaku only units despite we'll getting nadia anyway? And in my opinion, if given the choice i'd choose gellius for ultimate end-game bosses cuz i've seen this. Even gellius alone cant do much things, he needed dancer buff and he could do the map without that dragon rider, would took longer but its 3* in the end anyway and all the endgame content i've seen there was always a gellius not a dragon rider.

anyway yeah a perfect (minus fucking unit cost) elizabeth is basically free loot on acquired target

stuff just basically hands her the loot and dies

I swear to god - it occasionally gives you the loot before the mob is even dead

it's literally vayne with devourer and an edgeforce executioner bloodthirster and zephyr

she wont die, nothing will live - loot always lol

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and yes it's me what are you fucking retarded?

wait don't answer that xD

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i vote that they need a space map

and when they do treasure island the quest for black units -

the token space map is a black bounty hunter named Boobies Fatt or something and it's girl Boba

Originally Posted by ramazan

we dont even have nadia, could you please compare nutaku only units despite we'll getting nadia anyway?

Good point. Comparing to stuff we don't have (and no idea when we'll ever have) is silly.

On another note maybe its time the forum here had a sub-forum for DMM Aigis talk? If a new player stepped into the wrong conversation here it could get awfully confusing. Plus we could also have stickies that pertain to DMM with stuff like logging in from international locations.

She needs another blocker besides her to stall the enemies.

Nadia splash + unit that blocks is far cheaper than three + mages and Gellius and will get similar results. Nadia will have over 2k attack with AWS and attacks at a speed less than 40 frames versus mage's 98.

summed up: she will frequently out-dps THREE mages. that's just ridiculous.

Originally Posted by ramazan

Dont hit me if i want breaks more :c cuz most of my units needs leveling (well plat ones at least) And got so much free time to read all the stuff here, you guys speak the same thing at least 5-6 times over and over, we dont even have nadia, could you please compare nutaku only units despite we'll getting nadia anyway? And in my opinion, if given the choice i'd choose gellius for ultimate end-game bosses cuz i've seen this. Even gellius alone cant do much things, he needed dancer buff and he could do the map without that dragon rider, would took longer but its 3* in the end anyway and all the endgame content i've seen there was always a gellius not a dragon rider.

#1 - lol, breaks. no one on Nutaku except you wants to hear about aigis breaks.

#2 - there's no rule that requires us to talk about only Nutaku units, so we will likely continue talking about DMM. the list I posted earlier also includes a number of units that have already appeared on Nutaku.

#3 - gellius doesn't need a dancer to do what he does...?

#4 - nadia(and even dragon riders as a class) are much newer than gellius and will as such appear in far fewer videos.

anyway yeah a perfect (minus fucking unit cost) elizabeth is basically free loot on acquired target

stuff just basically hands her the loot and dies

I swear to god - it occasionally gives you the loot before the mob is even dead

it's literally vayne with devourer and an edgeforce executioner bloodthirster and zephyr

she wont die, nothing will live - loot always lol

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and yes it's me what are you fucking retarded?

wait don't answer that xD

you high, bro?

Good point. Comparing to stuff we don't have (and no idea when we'll ever have) is silly.

Nutaku players should probably be interested in the opinions of DMM players on units because it gives a strong indication of what is best to invest in. Presently the most effecting thing on a unit's worth is their awakening skill, which haven't appeared on Nutaku yet.

Originally Posted by Karsuman

you high, bro?

It looks like a FarK post.

first of all , you are exagerating. At best she replaces 2 mages. For example awakened odette does around 700 without prince buff.It should go around 850-900 with it , without any other team multipliers (like uzume/aria/etc). Considering the one in the image was doing 2250 at max lvl with probably the best prince title possible , that means she can replace 2 odettes. That is insane dps i agree , but then again , u don't need to use mages. You could easily place a solano , which also has great dps and true damage. The more resistance the enemies have , the better solano becomes.

Meanwhile gellius doesn't care what resistance his enemies have....nor what they attack him with seeing as he gains a bunch of mr alongside his huge hp pool and great defense.


Bottom line : gellius is good vs all forms of attackers. Nadia's offense is again situational , depending on the enemies resistances.

Gellius + Solano isn't a point in Gellius' favor vs. Nadia. If anything, it's a point in Solano's favor vs. Nadia.

It amazes me how dense you continue to be.

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm28593209

Boy that was hard to deploy Nadia.

Solano, while a useful unit, is not popular on DMM at the moment for practicality reasons. Specifically, her downtime. Even the black summoner suffers.

As for the DPS comparison, you completely ignored attack speed. In the amount of time it takes for a mage to attack, Nadia will have hit almost three times. If three mages are hitting for 1k each and Nadia is hitting for 2k each, you can see how the math turns out. This is of course different if you have a caster with an attack buff(Patra/Mole) but even then it's a case of limited uptime versus permanent uptime. This is also not accounting for mage range, the superb defensive stats of Nadia and space considerations(it's easier to have space for one unit versus three) but I digress.

Also, you continue to ignore the fact that someone else needs to do Gellius's DPS for him, since he contributes jack squat. As much of a wall as he is, he is very much a non-entity by himself - he needs someone to tank for. If left unattended, even purple goblins will escape. By comparison, it doesn't matter how many purple/red/black goblins there are, Nadia will stop every single one every time once active.

Nadia's offense is again situational , depending on the enemies resistances.

The only thing she can't penetrate is high-tier golems. Mages happen to suck against those too. I guess Solano doesn't, but Rikka is better.



edit: ...lol exk.

First of all that's a special case. I can use examples like this to make most niche units seem godlike. I said from the start that nadia , under the right conditions is broken. That being said , have you tried using his skill to increase the block ? Or place an archer instead of a healer ?




Eab it amazed me how dense can YOU be. I just pointed out that gellius is universaly viable vs any type of offense , while leaving enough UP to deploy an universally avaible event unit that does true damage. Meanwhile nadia's offense capabilities are dependant on enemy defenses. Is that really THAT hard to get ?