Gellius' tanking ability is different from the power output of Nadia (which is what he was getting at) if you want to go by stats at max level and affection
Gellius
HP: 4175
Atk: 306
Def: 611
MR: 10
Adding Gellius' Skill AW (for 30 seconds)
Def: 1833
MR: 30
Nadia
HP: 3572
Atk: 1031
Def: 614
MR: 0
Adding Nadias Skill AW (which keeps going till she gets paralyzed)
Atk: 1546
Def: 921
Despite the fact that she can only block 1 target she clearly outclasses Gellius stat wise, of course she's not meant to be put on every map and has her areas where she shines.
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Last edited by Buster Wolf; 04-06-2016 at 06:09 PM. Reason: Because lolix called it out
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and conveniantly left out gelius skill awakening. Interesting. @ Buster wolf
@ Tenhou : he said "other plats units can only look in shame" I was assuming he was talking about all plats. If he was talking purely duelists , sure , but the way he phrased it was somewhat confusing. If he wasn't talking duelists , then no. I disagree that nadia is the best platinum in the game.
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Her stats make a lot of units pale in comparison. Sure, Gellius has great defense, but Nadia has defensive stats AND offensive stats. I know you love your argument of "rather have a tank and then place out mages." But think about this - with Nadia out you have one great damage dealer and a tank out at the same time. Sure, she costs more, but she's like one hell of a monster that effectively manages two roles at once.
Gellius on the other hand is just that - a tank. He is only useful for blocking. Nadia can smash things to pieces as they come towards her. Who needs to deploy that archer or mage to go with Gellius? Just put down Nadia and be done with it.
There's also many maps where ranged slots are rather limited. The current subjugation event on DMM only has 3 ranged slots. Nadia was born for that map...
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Somebody who is faced with more than one beefy rusher at the same time? Nadia, while powerful, is still a 1-blocker. Gellius, on the other hand stops 4 (5) on their tracks.
Originally Posted by Tenhou
And if you say "Just put somebody behind Nadia", then how it is different from deploying Gellius with mage support?
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04-06-2016 #6CornOnSakob GuestLol, I recognize like none of those units :P Originally Posted by exk
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nadia blocks 1 person. Gellius has 30 MR and blocks 5.
Are we also forgetting the horrible cost that nadia has ? You people act like getting a 40 cost duelist on the field is easy. It's not. Most maps won't allow it. Also , what happens when you have beefy enemies rushing ? You have to place another blocker behind nadia , which means at least another heavy (or an awakened katie i guess) , or a angel/samurai/etc. That's another 15-20 up used because of her block.
You just look at the offense and think she outstats gelis because she has more damage....ignoring the fact that block/cost are also important stats , and nadia does very poorly in that regard
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Plopping down Katie then dropping Nadia in front of her once things start to get hairy is quite a bit cheaper than Gellius plus a mage even before you factor in Reinforcements. It also puts out waaaaay more damage. Garania's been a helpful presence in my army but she should feel kinda embarrassed about being so close to Nadia in cost. Originally Posted by ZeroZet
They were being sarcastic. Originally Posted by lolix
Anyway, I think you're missing the forest due to the trees again. Nadia isn't an anti-rush duelist but she's easily the top anti-swarm duelist. She's so good she can even survive being a contradiction in terms.
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Added Originally Posted by lolix
Still Nadia is better due to being able to attack all grounded units that pass her so she doesn't need ranged damage support like Gellius does due to his piss poor attack stat.
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what have i started ahaha
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