Thread: plat units = to blacks

what have i started ahaha

Originally Posted by switch

what have i started ahaha

lolix being wrong about a lot of things is par for the course.

eab trying to apear smart is also part of it

I don't need to "apear" smart when you do a good enough job of making yourself look like a fool without my interference.

ok. feel free to corect me :


We were arguing about which plat is better.


Gellius is THE top tank in the game. Best stats , best block , ability to face tank the ultimate bosses.

Nadia is a a top tier duelist (a very powerfull 1 at that) , but she is not the best. She is situational , and she can get situationally outclassed by others. Also her cost to deploy is insane , while gellius is not a situational tank. You need a tank ? you deploy him. Is he needed 100% of the times ? No , but he can be used most of the times.

I mean take leanne which is the cheapest HA : she costs 21 UP to deploy. An awakened gelius costs 26.

Now consider the cheapest duelist , and then consider nadia.



The point i'm trying to make is that nadia while very very very powerfull , is also situational. Gelis is not. Combined with the fact that there are no better options then him , in any situation that requires a heavy (as oposed to nadia that can be replaced by other duelists depending on the situation) means that he is also much more useful (well to be honest , heavies are generally more important then duelists , so there is that)


Now , in what way is nadia the better plat unit ?

Being anti-situational does not mean efficient. If Gellius fits everywhere but does not excel at anything except tanking, that isn't what I'd call "best plat unit". It'd be a debate to even say "most useful plat" either. Even if he's the best tank, his level of tanking is only really necessary for high-end bosses. If you can replace his job with Bernice half the time, that doesn't make him essential either.

If you can accomplish a job faster and with less risk by DPS'ing the fuck out of something instead of tanking and worrying about DPS/healing/leaks/etc., why wouldn't you? That is the argument for Nadia. What Nadia does is handle multiple roles (duelist/AoE), and she does that extremely well. She doesn't NEED to block more than one unit if she can AoE kill everything. She doesn't NEED to tank if she's not fighting anything short of a golem (and even then, Nadia can tank some of the lower-end golems). She only truly loses in cost, and neither unit is anti-rush anyway.

In the end, it boils down to what you value more in a unit. A unit that does extremely well at one job, or a unit that does sufficiently well at multiple jobs. You could make a case for other pure vs. hybrid classes, but in this case, Gellius does not have much else going for him besides tanking and cost, neither of which gives him a substantial lead over Nadia if he needs outside help anyway.