Thread: Help Request: Team

yeah I agree it feels rather weak to have ertel to be silver ... maybe one day we'll get a plat of her class :3 for Imelia i guess i'll just keep her for now like she is, if i in some months have enough stuff left and do not know what to do i can still level her up (ignoring her CR and skills). so right now i focus on getting the crystals (when the daily is on), besides that i guess i level up both my archers to level 50 with my charisma also my gold tank (forgot her name) and I like how monica only costs 10 unit points to use (minimum cost woop woop), her skill is 4/5 tho, will definitly level her up and possibly cc her too? also I want to level up marius and cc him.

EDIT: what would you suggest as a set up for me with my units on those 15 slots? which once would be swicharounds? what should I aim for? for now i got this (after our talk):
http://puu.sh/p3SQx/eb56619ee0.jpg (besides that i got to possibly (sadly) replace ertel)

not a bad setup , but u don't relaly need both bernice and leanne at the same time in general , so u can switch bernice for now (leanne after u level bernice up) and get more duelists in there. I'd suggest , u use lyla. She is 1 of the highest dps duelists avaible to us atm. She is still a good duelist. Actually , i'd leave julien out as well , unless u specifically need a 2nd soldier for said map , and i'd place sophie in , since she's an awsome lightning rod (btw , u can use her for Imortal beast after u leve her up and your healers a bit) , and u have to learn how to use her eventually.

Other then that , looks like a pretty decent lineup

got it :3 http://puu.sh/p3TSs/5ec190c086.jpg thank you so much for helping me out! I'll keep working and updating this step by step when i have mention worthy progress, not sure if i want to keep farming for the dancer (for cost reduce, skill up and stuff) i like the idea of a dancer but her range seems to be fairly small

EDIT: now i got to wait for my charisma... *sigh* maybe i should play a 2nd account but... starting without any good units all over again, doesn't sound too much fun...

to be fair cypria is not actually a priority either. Most of us kinda ignored her , but after AW and SAW she becomes a good dodge tank , but untill then , most people use either valks/pricesses/bandits as duelists. Most of us didn't raised her because shes kinda expensive to cc (3 silvers) , but since it's there , u could use it now. You might want to replace her with another unit in the future

I might even use a claduia , even at max cost over cypria if i were u , assuming u lack other princess. She still has a good skill for tanking liches/mages and for dealing with high armor (and mr stuff) even if u didn't leveled her skill much. She still gains mr and true damage even if her booster isn't that big

yeah i used both of them before situational.. i just can not figure out what to actually use as a 15 unit team, i feel like it would be so much easier if we could use 20 in there <.< in the end harder maps require more removing/replacing and i was quite some times at the point where i could need more than 15 units in a map lol, maybe my units were just too weak tho

well , you don't need a main team. I mean , you need a CORE team that u will use in most maps , and that's generally composed of HAT + soldier. Those are generally used on most maps. Then , you have your extended team which involves witches and mages as well...and maybe 1-2 duelists. Then you have your army , which will have situational and niche units , used for specific tasks that will allow you to change your playstyle and to fit each event.



Your end goal is to raise an "army" or a harem (i guess) , that can deal with different type of challenges. Keep that in mind


EDIT: that is my fault. As someone that has monica , i failed to mention that she changes her skill. I was concentrated on other stuff and i didn't realized that .

EDIT 2 : between the situational heal from ertel and the situational heal from marius , and the 2 iris , you should have enough to hold for now....but if you want to finish immortal beast , you will probably need another 1. Keep in mind that sophie is a monster for as long as her skill is in use , and can , make your life a whole lot easier on that map. Other then that , i'd suggest advancing to the desert map and trying to finish base scramble 2 since it gives the best amount of unit XP.

one still unanswered question: how much should i value getting the dancer on CR and skill up? (i got her 1x right now, so base form basicly) is it worth for me at my "current state" to get her on max CR and skills up?

EDIT: for exp i farm fiery oasis right now, since i get 2 bronze unit drops and i get an average of 4-6 units

I'll just make it quick for your short/mid-term goals:
- level Bashira and Iris some more (to around CC40-50ish)
- raise another healer, Bernice, Yuyu, Marius, Khuri
- buy Spica ASAP and raise her
- raise some duelists: Lyla is the obvious choice, I suggest Claudia as well since she's a princess
- raise a third healer at some point

When you did all of this you will have a solid core team that will allow you to do well in most events. Then you can start refining your team by leveling more niche/situational units and AW some units.

Most units were already covered by lolix, but just a quick note about Khuri: She's one of the most useful silvers in the game. It should be noted though that Nutaku is/was supposed to get a vampire hunter event, so you might want to hold off leveling her for now.

Sophie is amazing, but as an angel she is quite reliant on her skill. She has the same skill as the silver angel. You can trade a valkyrie and 100k gold for a silver angel in the trading post, so you could do that later on when you saved up some gold to save some rainbow fairies.

Originally Posted by DyingShadow

yeah i used both of them before situational.. i just can not figure out what to actually use as a 15 unit team, i feel like it would be so much easier if we could use 20 in there <.< in the end harder maps require more removing/replacing and i was quite some times at the point where i could need more than 15 units in a map lol, maybe my units were just too weak tho

This is a common misconception among new players. Fact of the matter is you will have way more than 15 usable units in no time and you will have to adapt your team depending on the missions, so you shouldn't worry too much about figuring out your "main team" or whatever.

Originally Posted by DyingShadow

I like how monica only costs 10 unit points to use (minimum cost woop woop), her skill is 4/5 tho, will definitly level her up and possibly cc her too?

Grats on mincosting her, but unfortunately Monica's skill changes when you CC her. Skills that change upon CC reset to 1/5. For units with changing skills it's advisable to CC them at level 30 before feeding them to a CC'd main unit. Not the biggest deal, just something to keep in mind for the future.

thank you for your opinion! I didn't know the skill will reset when it changes, but then i know to not try to max out her skill more than now, it was just a side effect for cost reducing tho, but yes next time i'll keep that in mind, for this specific case it would have taken too much time/charisma/gold/etc to do that tho... so you say i should focus on a solid core with more than 15 units that i can "replace" situational instead of trying to get a main 15? For the 3rd healer i guess i wait until i get another gold + one from shrine summon (if i get some more crystals, it is being a pain lately to get some)

Originally Posted by DyingShadow

I didn't know the skill will reset when it changes, but then i know to not try to max out her skill more than now, it was just a side effect for cost reducing tho, but yes next time i'll keep that in mind, for this specific case it would have taken too much time/charisma/gold/etc to do that tho...

I get that, but usually there's no rush to CR a unit, so might as well put it off for much later if it allows you to save several rainbow fairies.

Originally Posted by DyingShadow

so you say i should focus on a solid core with more than 15 units that i can "replace" situational instead of trying to get a main 15? For the 3rd healer i guess i wait until i get another gold + one from shrine summon (if i get some more crystals, it is being a pain lately to get some)

Yes. Like I said, you will have more than 15 usable units in no time anyway. Basically lolix explained what I meant, but here are some random examples: You might need 2 or even 3 heavy armors on some maps even though you'd probably only use 1 on most maps. You might need 4 or even more healers on certain maps. Some maps have only few ranged slots, so you might need melee supports (units you place on a melee slot that can attack at range) and/or priest warriors. Some maps (subjugations) don't have natural UP regeneration, which means you probably wanna use 2 soldiers and possibly some valkyries there.
...etc.

You can steamroll low tier maps with a generic team, but for god tier maps or certain special maps you'll have to adjust your team (unless you have several OP AW'd units maybe).

Originally Posted by DyingShadow

For the 3rd healer i guess i wait until i get another gold + one from shrine summon (if i get some more crystals, it is being a pain lately to get some)

Honestly, Alissa is pretty decent, especially if you can mincost her later on. To be fair, it's not quite as easy to CR silvers on Nutaku compared to DMM.

Regarding Waltz, I suggest you try to CR her, but don't try too hard (as far as spending SC goes).