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Help Request: Team
Hello everyone,
I've been playing Aigis for quite some time now and i feel like i should start getting into a ... direction. I have quite some units, got a few CC'd units but i am really unsure how to build a good allround team. Story wise i am currently stuck at "Base Scramble I" and "Immortal Beast" (which i think would be a cause of my lack of setups/focus). I got only 1 black unit (i got it yesterday WOOOO!) which is my Sophie. But i got to say i do not see any really good use for her right now, tho I red her AW which seems pretty insane... I am not sure if i should use the Trading Post to get the silver angel to lvl up her skills, might be not worth until i actually use her tho...
here a list of my units:
http://puu.sh/p3Eza/8e28857e84.jpg
http://puu.sh/p3EAp/661f540bbb.jpg
http://puu.sh/p3EBg/bf778628e0.jpg
sadly i do not have the event units i have on minimum cost high skill or anything like that, since i was mostly to weak and set my priority on getting futher in the story / leveling my units after getting the event unit on their "basic form"
I look forward to your opinions and advices! Also i am new to the forum but I look forward to become a part of this community :3
Edit: ah yeah my hero/account level is 101 so far, to give you an idea about how much playtime i have
Edit2: My current setups: http://puu.sh/p3GoS/351c667fc9.jpg , http://puu.sh/p3GnO/07b9b0ac49.jpg
Last edited by DyingShadow; 05-24-2016 at 12:47 PM.
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u got great duelists , and good mages (in garania , both goldies , and even marius can act as a mage) , a good witch as well in yuyu , which should help pass war of magic. Good tank in bernice as well.
Actually outside of leveling the usual suspects : HAT (healer/archer/tank) + mages + duelists + witch >>>> the core army , all you have left is improving your archer squad , since you have only bashira , by aquiring spica.
After spica is avaible , i'd raise and cc more core and go for awakening of said units. Also u might want to raise and cc 1 monica (hell u can probably try to cost reduce her , since u don't generally need more then 1 , and her passive doesn't stack with herlsef as far as i know)
Pretty much this right now. U can also watch the video in the strategy department for Imortal beast , and i think we also have a sticky with the desert maps , which u might find useful
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Okay noted it: Working on my Plat Archer and Shao to get them up to around lv 50 (possibly?) then focus on CC’ing my 2nd Iris and Mage Marius. Is it actually worth to get my Princess Bandit Imelia CC’d? I was working on that currently and I really like her as a unit (+ she is super kawaii). To sophie, I guess I’ll leave her out for now and just keep her as she is until I got my HAT core up working, right? Yuyu is on my CC list as well, too much to work on, so less Charisma… would lancer Kerry be a key unit long term? I see a lot of people use her (in videos) but I am not really a fan of her … I prefer having commander julian out for unit points.. also is he worth CC’ing to fill as a secondary tank like Katie (which I mainly use as a tank that regenerates unit points)? Also for monica, are pirates actually a thing? or would it "just" be a replacement for an archer until i get more usefull once?
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ok , let's take it 1 by 1.
Marius is a good unit , and because he's an elf , he has a crapload of attack. That being said , he is a dual class , and while he is versatile , there are some that prefer mages that boost their own dps. ME personally , i rather like the guy , so a lot it depends on yourself. I guess u also have garania if u really want to carpet bomb stuff , so that's okay. You're doing better then most of us in that regard.
Seeing that u have 2 good archers , u should start farming the DC dailies (and i'd suggest having a monica in your farm team since she improves the drop rate of dcs). Spica is curently the best trading post unit in the game , and probably the second best archer all around in the game , besides nanaly. She is a priority.
Personally , i wouldn't recomand rushing a saki , even tho she's black , so don't get baited into getting her over spica. After you got spica , i guess you can decide for yourself if having a ranged on melee slot is a priority for you , or if u want awakenings first. That's up to you , but spica is a really good unit , and i'd say get her asap.
Imelia : Depends on how much u cr-ed and SU-ed her. At cr 2 , most event units break even in cost with premium units. I personally like imelia , since she's a wall of stats. But you also have a lyla which is a pretty good duelist as well , even tho she loses defense.
EDIT: saw that your imelia is full cost. That's 2 bad. You could go for lyla i guess , or even sophie , if u know how to use her (shes better as a lighning rod , but she can act as situational duelist if u have the right timing.
As for imelia alone , well she is still a ball of stats with a good skill. ANd while u have her at her basic level , skills can be leveled up with rainbow fairies (i wouldn't re comand wasting rainbows on a non cr-ed event unit tho) , and her stats are still the same , even if she costs a whole lot more to deploy. It depends on u , if u consider her stats to be worth. I'd personally go with lyla in this case , since cc-ing a plat unit is a pretty serious investition
Yuyu is not a priority right now , but she will help u when u reach war of magic....assuming u raise her skill a bit , since she is literally a belinda with faster attack speed (since she's an elf. they even have comparable stats. I think the difference between their attack damage was like 6 )
Kerry...well kerry was the very first summon for a lot of us. They used to give us kerry instead of bashira , so a lot of guides use her as a "basic unit". She's not that great of a duelist , but if u really need a valk (the curent subjugation event kinda needs valks to make easier) , i guess you could raise her. I personally don't care much for her , and if we had misha , i think i'd rather level her (a silver) rather then kerry , but that's up to you. Depends if you have the time and charisma for her.
Julien doesn't even compare to katie in terms of ability to tank...well for a soldier that is. But if you need a secondary UP battery , he is good...assuming you lack any of the plat soldiers , or aria (which u shouldn't have anyway , if you're new). A lot of people use 2 soldier strategies , but till now , i've yet to need 2 myself. In the future , we are probably going to require more up batteries tho , so i guess you could raise him as well , even tho i wouldn't consider him exactly a priority.
Actually , in terms of pure tanking , you should raise bernice , because she's a really good tank , and make leanne your secundary
Pirates , huh ? well it depends. Some pirates are. Minerva (a black) hits somewhere around 1.5k per hit and has a chance of assasination for example. Anelia can hit over 1k , and hit 5 targets at once. During skill usage , that is. Monica , is mostly used and raised and awakened for her ability to boost Demon crystal drop rates. Short answer : some yes , some no , and those that are , are generaly because of utility rather then straight up outclassing archers.
Actually vamp hunters , archers and pirates are all subclasses that fill generally the same role , but with different strenghts. Pirates attack slower , but hit hard for each hit at longer range , and are better vs armored stuff. Vh , hit 3 arrows per volley and can decimate unarmored stuff , but do very little vs armored enemies , while archers are generally the best balanced. Also probably the best of the 3 subclasses , even tho in some instanfes , they can be outperformed by individual units.
PS: forgot about iris. Some people don't like doubles for roleplaying reasons , and that's fine as well. I for one , don't care much. I like to powergame. and i think iris is a pretty eficient healer, and quite a lot better then alissa/dorca. I would personally raise and cc 2 of them , but that's up to you. CR healers aren't bad either, since getting them on the field faster is not a bad ideea , but i wouldn't waste a second iris to cr the first , if all u have in the heal department is her.
Last edited by lolix; 05-24-2016 at 01:54 PM.
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thank you a lot for your detailed answer! It helps me a lot, i will keep this updated as soon as i have noticable progress, I do not mind having 2x the same unit so i'll go for cc'ing both Iris since I'd rather have 2 good gold healers than 1 good gold + 1 silver. for Sophie i'll possibly wait with er. It is fairly sad that i can not use Imelia, i like her because of her skill, she is the only bandit who actually buffs her defense and after her ability she can simply be healed up again. What do you think about Ertel? I CC'd her and i really like the "Block 3 but able to heal too" but it seems that she isn't tanky enough to be used as a 2nd line tank. (I thought i can put her beind a tank for example to stop everything that is not blocked by the tank and if not blocking healing the tank in front of it).
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actually i'd wait on sophie as well. She has monster stats (all angels have naturally high stats) , but she is used different then a normal duelist.
Also , i liked imelia for the smae reason as you. She's got good offense ,AND defense on top of having a big hp pool because she's a bandit. The fact is , her stats are still there , if you don't care about the cost. She is still a strong unit , if you want to invest in her skill , and don't care about her cost. And while there are maps were cost doesn't matter , there are others were it does. Having her non cr-ed makes her a bit more situational for you to use her , then for us , but other then that , as i said , her stats are still good. The problem would be raising her skill , since you would have to invest rainbows in her , and i for 1 wouldn't. But that's your choice again.
There is also a possibility of revival events , but hers would be in the far future if we actually ever get revivals...
As for ertel , i also like the concept of her , but IMO she looks the type of silver that would be a awhole lot better at max skill level and min cost , and while i got a cc50 one myself , i'm not ready to start min costing a low priority silver yet. But she seems rather usefull. I'd love other units of her class in higher rarity actually
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yeah I agree it feels rather weak to have ertel to be silver ... maybe one day we'll get a plat of her class :3 for Imelia i guess i'll just keep her for now like she is, if i in some months have enough stuff left and do not know what to do i can still level her up (ignoring her CR and skills). so right now i focus on getting the crystals (when the daily is on), besides that i guess i level up both my archers to level 50 with my charisma also my gold tank (forgot her name) and I like how monica only costs 10 unit points to use (minimum cost woop woop), her skill is 4/5 tho, will definitly level her up and possibly cc her too? also I want to level up marius and cc him.
EDIT: what would you suggest as a set up for me with my units on those 15 slots? which once would be swicharounds? what should I aim for? for now i got this (after our talk):
http://puu.sh/p3SQx/eb56619ee0.jpg (besides that i got to possibly (sadly) replace ertel)
Last edited by DyingShadow; 05-24-2016 at 03:53 PM.
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not a bad setup , but u don't relaly need both bernice and leanne at the same time in general , so u can switch bernice for now (leanne after u level bernice up) and get more duelists in there. I'd suggest , u use lyla. She is 1 of the highest dps duelists avaible to us atm. She is still a good duelist. Actually , i'd leave julien out as well , unless u specifically need a 2nd soldier for said map , and i'd place sophie in , since she's an awsome lightning rod (btw , u can use her for Imortal beast after u leve her up and your healers a bit) , and u have to learn how to use her eventually.
Other then that , looks like a pretty decent lineup
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got it :3 http://puu.sh/p3TSs/5ec190c086.jpg thank you so much for helping me out! I'll keep working and updating this step by step when i have mention worthy progress, not sure if i want to keep farming for the dancer (for cost reduce, skill up and stuff) i like the idea of a dancer but her range seems to be fairly small
EDIT: now i got to wait for my charisma... *sigh* maybe i should play a 2nd account but... starting without any good units all over again, doesn't sound too much fun...
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to be fair cypria is not actually a priority either. Most of us kinda ignored her , but after AW and SAW she becomes a good dodge tank , but untill then , most people use either valks/pricesses/bandits as duelists. Most of us didn't raised her because shes kinda expensive to cc (3 silvers) , but since it's there , u could use it now. You might want to replace her with another unit in the future
I might even use a claduia , even at max cost over cypria if i were u , assuming u lack other princess. She still has a good skill for tanking liches/mages and for dealing with high armor (and mr stuff) even if u didn't leveled her skill much. She still gains mr and true damage even if her booster isn't that big
Last edited by lolix; 05-24-2016 at 04:56 PM.
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