Thread: What to do next?

Okay, I have been playing Aigis for some months now, but got stuck with a lot of things to do after AW arrived and don't know what to focus. So, I am looking for advices and this place looks receptive for it. ღ･ω･ღ
My doubts are mostly about:

1) Invest in a new character for the main team (Imelia, Hina, Shizuka, Waltz, Yuyu, Betty, Julian, Ertel, Khuri)
2) Keep leveling the already CC/AWed army (Saki, Sherry, Elizabeth, Rachel, Horace, Rachel, Rita, Cypria, Lynn, Cloris, Shao)
3) AW someone (Despara, Deine, Claudia, Rachel, Bashira, Rita, Barbastroff, Fedora) Note: only 100 DCs at the moment.
4) CR/SU goldies/silvers (Iris, Kerry*, Barbastroff*, Khuri, Pallis, Elaine) *After AW
5) Who do I feed rainbows
6) Something else?

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Originally Posted by Worange

Okay, I have been playing Aigis for some months now, but got stuck with a lot of things to do after AW arrived and don't know what to focus. So, I am looking for advices and this place looks receptive for it. ღ･ω･ღ
My doubts are mostly about:

1) Invest in a new character for the main team (Imelia, Hina, Shizuka, Waltz, Yuyu, Betty, Julian, Ertel, Khuri)
2) Keep leveling the already CC/AWed army (Saki, Sherry, Elizabeth, Rachel, Horace, Rachel, Rita, Cypria, Lynn, Cloris, Shao)
3) AW someone (Despara, Deine, Claudia, Rachel, Bashira, Rita, Barbastroff, Fedora) Note: only 100 DCs at the moment.
4) CR/SU goldies/silvers (Iris, Kerry*, Barbastroff*, Khuri, Pallis, Elaine) *After AW
5) Who do I feed rainbows
6) Something else?

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1st, you're gonna need a 2nd mage.Most event map nowaday require 2 mage to clear(heck even the current subjugation map require you have 2 mage to clear 500 kills).
2nd, if you can, definitely AW Deine, she is a godsend-tank, the rest is rather optional.
3rd, I see that you has no Val and that's a crucial unit in Subjugation so you might wanna at least min-costed Elaine with what you have( and Pallis as well, since AFF give more bonus than trust).If you have Elizabeth then Khuri is pretty much optional, still with a dancer Khuri has a lot of effective damage compare to archer of same rank in trade of range.
4th, SAW ain't gonna coming any time soon, so it's your choice

first of all , congratz. That's a very impressive lineup. Deine , despara , elizabeth , sherry ? Yes pls. That being said , this is going to be a detalied response , so prepare for a wall of text.



Now , to answer your questions :




1. I'll go by importance order (in my opinion ofc) :

Imelia is a great duelist to have and while you have a very impressive ranged line up , your duelist squad is kinda slim , considering you have just sherry , claudia and condrad.

Edit : forgot kerry. Still , not a really high impact duelist either.
EDIT 2 : didn't noticed that Imelia is just at cr 3 >>>> why was i under the impression she was at 1 cr ? Regardless , she's not max cr , but generally event units break even in cost at 2 cr. She still have the stats so this becomes your choice. SHe would be harder to field , but once on field , she is sitll a ball of stats. But if you feel that cc-ing is not worth on a non max cr duelist , you might put that on hold

Sherry is a good general duelist , but the other 2 are a bit more specialized , and generally more usefull vs liches or mages (or dragons i guess) , or very high armor/resistances because of claudia's true damage/condrad's very high damage (even tho he loses defense)
You can never go wrong with leveling another duelist. As charles (was it charles or lafate?) said a while back , you can never have enough duelists. I kinda agree.



Waltz. dancers are good units ,and seeing the only other we have right now is premium , and the other event dancer (that we haven't gotten yet - hana - but she's an entirely different beast so , i'd go with waltz right now) , aren't really viable options , i'd level waltz. Oh , also , the greatest abusers of dancer buffs are units that can hit either with aoe or with multiple hits. Lucky for you , you got elizabeth (which already has dps compared to nanaly ). Place waltz near her , and see things die. I would also get waltz leveled as soon as possible.



Yuyu is a personal favorite of mine , and she is a really good witch to have , seeing as she's an elf (increase attack speed and attack damage ) and she's also a gold. She would benefit greatly from sherry's passive for example (she already has dps comparable to belinda which is a plat. I think she might be higher actually) , but luckly for you , you got despara , she's not a priority right now. She might be usefull in the future tho.



Also , i would level another soldier (probably julien) because we're going to need 2 soldiers in the future aparently (i've yet to have a map that required me to deploy 2 soldiers , but dmm veterans do advise to have 2 gold+ anyway)


Also , i would raise another iris (if you have no problem with raising duplicates). Fedora is quite a bit worse then iris untill her SAW. And having just 1 fedora , 1 iris and 1 alissa , seems a bit weak. Ofc , there are others that dislikes duplicates and would advise cr/su-ing main iris. Cheap to deploy healers is not a general bad idea either , so that;s up to you , but i'd go with second iris.



2. First of all , i dunno why do u have sooo much archers. I personally see very little point on cc-ing and raising something like Shao , if i'd have spica,bashira and elizabeth , and the black archer whose name i can't remember for some reason. Spica and bashira are the golden sntadard. Getting elizabeth is great. Getting 2 more archers after them is a bit pointless , seeing that we will rarely have maps that will require (or have the slots at that) for 4 archers and 1 VH.

Now to answer , your base question , yes i would keep leveling the cc-ed/AW-ed units , untill 40 or 50 then only use armors with triple fairies. That's the most efficient way to level up without wasting gold.


3. Rachel gains 15 range. Pretty meh IMO. Claudia gets a bit more damage vs dragons (1.3 instead 1.2) which is so situational that i wouldn't even bother. Barbi and cyrus aw's are rather meh as well. They will get better after SAW tho. Fedora's AW is meh as well. As i said , cheaper healers are good , but to awaken an unit for 1 cr....not sure if gusta.


Now let's talk what i would awaken :


a. Imelia - she will buff both herself and condrad , and she is a very good general duelist
b. Deine. SHe becomes more expensive but gets even more base defense , which works great with bernice's passive. You want an imortal tank ? this is it. Only better alternative being gellius , but that guy can just take a beating. Deine can also dish out.
c. Despara - she gains attack speed , which might not seem much , but at the amount of damage she naturally does , she becomes a pretty damn high dpser after AW. + she gets a god damn panther.



4. Not a priority. You won't really really need min costed silvers that often. Maybe an ocasional soldier or caliopee , but those are not must have priorities. I actually kinda like khuri and shes a great silver , but with yoyr ranged prowess , i dunno if you really need her. especially since archers are pretty damn cheap to place , and even if cost would be somewhat of a problem , i'd rather place a max cost elizabeth then a min costed khuri.

Seriously , don't even bother with this point right now. U will have time in the future to think for yourself. Hell , u might even want to cr and SU kerry before min cost a silver , since she actually gets buffed by sherry and having a cheap valk is not a bad ideea (they are meant to be placed early anyway)


5. keep rainbows till SAW. And if space is a problem , generally try feeding them to units with abilities that get signifiantly better with levels (aka ones that increase damage/defense/etc) by a certain procent , rather then units that get ....dunno , let's say cd reduction from them



6. Okay , i gave u a lot of points , so ill put everything in order , as i would do it :


Id start with power leveling imelia >power level waltz > awaken imelia > level iris > level julien > awaken deine/despara(at your discretion). Then just level normally your other units

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

1st, you're gonna need a 2nd mage.Most event map nowaday require 2 mage to clear(heck even the current subjugation map require you have 2 mage to clear 500 kills).
2nd, if you can, definitely AW Deine, she is a godsend-tank, the rest is rather optional.
3rd, I see that you has no Val and that's a crucial unit in Subjugation so you might wanna at least min-costed Elaine with what you have( and Pallis as well, since AFF give more bonus than trust).If you have Elizabeth then Khuri is pretty much optional, still with a dancer Khuri has a lot of effective damage compare to archer of same rank in trade of range.
4th, SAW ain't gonna coming any time soon, so it's your choice

He has 2 mages (cyrus/barbi) and he has kerry as a valk. missed it as well first time

Wouldnt even worry about 2 gold soliders lol looks like this guy spends. With 2 plat soilders in gacha now it's only a matter of time

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Or wait for aria revival if we ever get it

Well, that's a great wall of text and cleared a lot of things, so it's alright <3

I don't spend anymore, did it just one time in the beginning to buy unit space + barrack + few summons.
Imelia is -3CR 7/10, I was exactly wondering if isn't better to level up Shizuka because of that, but I would also need to give her some rainbows. For now just chaging the power level order Waltz > Imelia, she is the one I have copies to feed after all, just a little sad by her eating two healers when CCed o3o

The only reason I didn't leveled second Iris yet is the hope for Chydis back in TP

yeah , it's 4 am here. Dunno why i was under the impression imelia was at 1 cr. As i edited my previous post , event units break event at 2cr with premium summons , so she might be worth using then


Edit : shizuka is samurai , which costs 24 up to field. They fit entirely different roles in a team anyway , so go imelia. That being said , samurai in general are some of the more niche units in aigis. RIght now there are very few things they can do that other units can't do better somehow.


That being said , shizuka is probably the best samurai in the game right now, so there is that...

Originally Posted by lolix

first of all , congratz. That's a very impressive lineup. Deine , despara , elizabeth , sherry ? Yes pls. That being said , this is going to be a detalied response , so prepare for a wall of text.



Now , to answer your questions :




1. I'll go by importance order (in my opinion ofc) :

Imelia is a great duelist to have and while you have a very impressive ranged line up , your duelist squad is kinda slim , considering you have just sherry , claudia and condrad.

Edit : forgot kerry. Still , not a really high impact duelist either.
EDIT 2 : didn't noticed that Imelia is just at cr 3 >>>> why was i under the impression she was at 1 cr ? Regardless , she's not max cr , but generally event units break even in cost at 2 cr. She still have the stats so this becomes your choice. SHe would be harder to field , but once on field , she is sitll a ball of stats. But if you feel that cc-ing is not worth on a non max cr duelist , you might put that on hold

Sherry is a good general duelist , but the other 2 are a bit more specialized , and generally more usefull vs liches or mages (or dragons i guess) , or very high armor/resistances because of claudia's true damage/condrad's very high damage (even tho he loses defense)
You can never go wrong with leveling another duelist. As charles (was it charles or lafate?) said a while back , you can never have enough duelists. I kinda agree.



Waltz. dancers are good units ,and seeing the only other we have right now is premium , and the other event dancer (that we haven't gotten yet - hana - but she's an entirely different beast so , i'd go with waltz right now) , aren't really viable options , i'd level waltz. Oh , also , the greatest abusers of dancer buffs are units that can hit either with aoe or with multiple hits. Lucky for you , you got elizabeth (which already has dps compared to nanaly ). Place waltz near her , and see things die. I would also get waltz leveled as soon as possible.



Yuyu is a personal favorite of mine , and she is a really good witch to have , seeing as she's an elf (increase attack speed and attack damage ) and she's also a gold. She would benefit greatly from sherry's passive for example (she already has dps comparable to belinda which is a plat. I think she might be higher actually) , but luckly for you , you got despara , she's not a priority right now. She might be usefull in the future tho.



Also , i would level another soldier (probably julien) because we're going to need 2 soldiers in the future aparently (i've yet to have a map that required me to deploy 2 soldiers , but dmm veterans do advise to have 2 gold+ anyway)


Also , i would raise another iris (if you have no problem with raising duplicates). Fedora is quite a bit worse then iris untill her SAW. And having just 1 fedora , 1 iris and 1 alissa , seems a bit weak. Ofc , there are others that dislikes duplicates and would advise cr/su-ing main iris. Cheap to deploy healers is not a general bad idea either , so that;s up to you , but i'd go with second iris.



2. First of all , i dunno why do u have sooo much archers. I personally see very little point on cc-ing and raising something like Shao , if i'd have spica,bashira and elizabeth , and the black archer whose name i can't remember for some reason. Spica and bashira are the golden sntadard. Getting elizabeth is great. Getting 2 more archers after them is a bit pointless , seeing that we will rarely have maps that will require (or have the slots at that) for 4 archers and 1 VH.

Now to answer , your base question , yes i would keep leveling the cc-ed/AW-ed units , untill 40 or 50 then only use armors with triple fairies. That's the most efficient way to level up without wasting gold.


3. Rachel gains 15 range. Pretty meh IMO. Claudia gets a bit more damage vs dragons (1.3 instead 1.2) which is so situational that i wouldn't even bother. Barbi and cyrus aw's are rather meh as well. They will get better after SAW tho. Fedora's AW is meh as well. As i said , cheaper healers are good , but to awaken an unit for 1 cr....not sure if gusta.


Now let's talk what i would awaken :


a. Imelia - she will buff both herself and condrad , and she is a very good general duelist
b. Deine. SHe becomes more expensive but gets even more base defense , which works great with bernice's passive. You want an imortal tank ? this is it. Only better alternative being gellius , but that guy can just take a beating. Deine can also dish out.
c. Despara - she gains attack speed , which might not seem much , but at the amount of damage she naturally does , she becomes a pretty damn high dpser after AW. + she gets a god damn panther.



4. Not a priority. You won't really really need min costed silvers that often. Maybe an ocasional soldier or caliopee , but those are not must have priorities. I actually kinda like khuri and shes a great silver , but with yoyr ranged prowess , i dunno if you really need her. especially since archers are pretty damn cheap to place , and even if cost would be somewhat of a problem , i'd rather place a max cost elizabeth then a min costed khuri.

Seriously , don't even bother with this point right now. U will have time in the future to think for yourself. Hell , u might even want to cr and SU kerry before min cost a silver , since she actually gets buffed by sherry and having a cheap valk is not a bad ideea (they are meant to be placed early anyway)


5. keep rainbows till SAW. And if space is a problem , generally try feeding them to units with abilities that get signifiantly better with levels (aka ones that increase damage/defense/etc) by a certain procent , rather then units that get ....dunno , let's say cd reduction from them



6. Okay , i gave u a lot of points , so ill put everything in order , as i would do it :


Id start with power leveling imelia >power level waltz > awaken imelia > level iris > level julien > awaken deine/despara(at your discretion). Then just level normally your other units

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He has 2 mages (cyrus/barbi) and he has kerry as a valk. missed it as well first time

My bad.Should have specific that you need to leveling and CC a 2nd mage, given that their range is crap non-CCed

He has 2 lvled cc'ed mages

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Please do not comment on posts if you haven't even fully looked over his units.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

My bad.Should have specific that you need to leveling and CC a 2nd mage, given that their range is crap non-CCed

First of all , did you just quoted that entire wall of text just to say that , considering there are literally 4 people in this thread , and 1 is the op ?


Second , look at his units again. He has 2 cc-ed max level mages , 1 being babastrof and 1 being cyrus.

So, figured I'd weigh in and expand on what lolix said. I tend to agree with most of the points, but thought I'd bring up the following.

Originally Posted by lolix

Yuyu is a personal favorite of mine , and she is a really good witch to have , seeing as she's an elf (increase attack speed and attack damage ) and she's also a gold. She would benefit greatly from sherry's passive for example (she already has dps comparable to belinda which is a plat. I think she might be higher actually) , but luckly for you , you got despara , she's not a priority right now. She might be usefull in the future tho.

Yuyu is good. Not only is she a gold, and thus potentially cheaper, her skill awaken makes her cheaper still, and maxed out she deals 497 base damage compared to Belinda's 396 (and as a gold she benefits from Sherry's awaken ability). Not to mention, if you ever manage to get an Olivie, once awakened she'll cost the same as a silver witch of the same CR.

Originally Posted by lolix

Also , i would raise another iris (if you have no problem with raising duplicates). Fedora is quite a bit worse then iris untill her SAW. And having just 1 fedora , 1 iris and 1 alissa , seems a bit weak. Ofc , there are others that dislikes duplicates and would advise cr/su-ing main iris. Cheap to deploy healers is not a general bad idea either , so that;s up to you , but i'd go with second iris.

On leveling a second Iris vs Fedore, my personal suggestion would be to CR your main Iris, and level Fedora. The reason is that while Iris is generally better, the two have slightly different roles. Iris is more of a burst healer due to her skill, while Fedora has higher base healing (21 more attack to be precise), and once awakened is cheaper to deploy.

Originally Posted by lolix

Now to answer , your base question , yes i would keep leveling the cc-ed/AW-ed units , untill 40 or 50 then only use armors with triple fairies. That's the most efficient way to level up without wasting gold.

On the one about leveling CC'd/AW'd units to 40 to 50, I would specify that you should aim for experience values that will put you close what you would need to evenly level up to max with plat armours and spirits without wasting more xp than needed. You can find the tables for that here. I usually go to the first one that is 50 or higher personally.

Originally Posted by lolix

Now let's talk what i would awaken :

a. Imelia - she will buff both herself and condrad , and she is a very good general duelist
b. Deine. SHe becomes more expensive but gets even more base defense , which works great with bernice's passive. You want an imortal tank ? this is it. Only better alternative being gellius , but that guy can just take a beating. Deine can also dish out.
c. Despara - she gains attack speed , which might not seem much , but at the amount of damage she naturally does , she becomes a pretty damn high dpser after AW. + she gets a god damn panther.

I would add to the list of units that benefit greatly from awakening, Saki, who not only attacks faster, but also has her cost reduced by 4.

Originally Posted by lolix

5. keep rainbows till SAW. And if space is a problem , generally try feeding them to units with abilities that get signifiantly better with levels (aka ones that increase damage/defense/etc) by a certain procent , rather then units that get ....dunno , let's say cd reduction from them

On the note of using Rainbow spirits, there isn't really a need to wait for SAW if you already know what the SAW is for the unit and plan to use it. Or if as noted the unit already will benefit greatly from skill levels. That said, try to avoid using them when the skill can be readily obtained without the fairies (for instance, if the Big Adventure Anna star event does actually happen soon, you can farm Gadoras, who has the same skill as Despara when CC'd). Additionally, it is most cost effective to use Rainbow spirits on level 1 units, such as just after CCing or awakening since while they do not give experience, their cost still is dependant on the level of the unit. A level 1 unit will cost 200 gold to feed a Rainbow spirit, a level 40 unit will cost 1760. That said, don't be to worried about keeping to that if you already awakened the unit or have a unit with the same skill to feed to it first.