Wow that's overkill definitely changes my opinion of Berna, not that I thought her as a bad unit not at all but with a skill like that no one/army would stand in your way!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroZet
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Wow that's overkill definitely changes my opinion of Berna, not that I thought her as a bad unit not at all but with a skill like that no one/army would stand in your way!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ZeroZet
It's long hit me as kinda funny how often people underestimate Berna's defenses. People just see "rogue" and squawk about RNG but evasion is actually a pretty nifty complementary defense when you're talking about a unit that already has static defenses roughly on par with a Platinum princess. 50% is unreliable in terms of surviving a one shot kill but when you're talking about a unit that can already survive 3 swings from most opponents that 50% chance can be interpreted as a 93.75% chance to require least 5 swings instead of 4 before dying. She's not super impressive by black standards prior to skill awakening and dat wave clear but her raw stats already make her far more generically useful than the other rogues.
The main thing that kills her usefulness is the simple fact that you can't dodge magic, so she loses her advantage against lichs and whatnot.
Even without SAW though, having triple assassination rate is pretty strong.
Cyprias SAW is also pretty strong and i honestly think that shes underated too. So that alone makes it not true that only bernas would profit from bernas token passive. Many people underestemate the time some rouges can actualy survive and the damage they can dish out against certian enemys or rushes while thier cost is lower then valks (and they are better anti rush units then valks too). I often used cypria lvl 50 none cced as emergency panic stopper and was always suprised how well she actualy performs without even being cced.
Ada is probably the rogue that hits me as the most tragic. IF you Awaken her and IF you farmed her enough to overcome her inflated number of skill ranks you end up with a unit burly enough to dodge tank quite well during her skill activation. Decent outcome on paper but enough "Ifs" that as a free player I nixed any thought of SC spending and farmed a bunch of valk fodder instead.
I actually intend to use Berna as an alternate duelist even though I have the best duelists in the game.
As someone already said her defense coupled with her dodge makes her a viable tank for the most part and a perfect panic button. I used this opportunity to dump another 100SCs to level my army. Got all my remaining blacks(Dark Knight, Berna, Saki, Farne) to cc80.
I also leveled my long-yearned-for samurai army. Shizuka, Sakuya and Kojuro are maxed and I'm working on Akane and Chizuru. I really want to somehow use them despite Samurai being absolute crap-tier units.
Lastly I leveled most of my gold male units to max CC(Vincent, Stray, Cyrus, Conrad, Julian, Robert). I achieved quite a lot during this drop boost week. I'd say about 80% of my army is now max CC'd
Since the big rebalance patch Samurais actually have the stats to back up their cost now. You may use them instead of your heavy infantry on any map where you don't need to use the defensive skill to survive.) Then again, they do have their own ways to increase their survivability, so even more tank-demanding maps could be tackled by them then...
Yeah and I feel Shizuka's and Kojuro's awakening passives make them even more viable. If they costed 1 or 2 UP less it would be perfect but I'll still find a way to use themQuote:
Originally Posted by ZeroZet
Speaking of Samurai, I want Hibari already D: I have a Max CR 5/10 S CC70 Momiji I should consider awakening and using since it's going to be around 5 years before we ever get to Hibari's event, samurai got their buff, and I have a Waltz to pair her with... but I have to hold onto a pile of stones just incase they actually bring Chydis back into rotation and revive Anya's event. Shuka has also been pulling her weight as a Samurai-lite as well...