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    If you have Kerry reduced I guess you don't need Emilia, but getting an event unit that can be max reduced relatively easily sounds enticing enough with those stats.


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    Definitely, if you don't have Kerry with any cost reductions, no MR duelists, or just all around lacking in your lineup then sure Emilia can be worthwhile, especially max reduced. If the loli valk is introduced though I say people should farm that second level and cost reduce her instead if all you want is a cheap solid valk that can generate some UP. Better duelists will come our way and two of them are superior valks.

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    Looking at it, with max CR so she only costs 10 UP.

    Yeah, that's the primary draw far as vets are concerned. If you only care about killing liches regardless of UP cost then Claudia and Horace just aren't terribly impressed with what Kerry and Emilia can do. Where valks really shine is ramp and situations where cheap tank swaps are appreciated.

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    Yeah, that's the primary draw far as vets are concerned. If you only care about killing liches regardless of UP cost then Claudia and Horace just aren't terribly impressed with what Kerry and Emilia can do. Where valks really shine is ramp and situations where cheap tank swaps are appreciated.
    Yeah, obviously from a pure combat standpoint, Claudia mops the floor with Kerry and Emilia. Valkyries exist for UP ramp, minor lightning rods, and cheap, easily replaceable duelists, either because you're swapping out lightning rods or dealing with rushes too early for some heavier units to be deployed without screwing your other deployments due to UP cost.


    By the way, question for the veterans here: If I were to raise one Valkyrie, would you recommend Dahlia, Emilia, min-cost Kerry or -1 Thetis? Thetis' AW is niche, but very useful within that niche, Kerry is min-costed which is nice but not sure about slowing attack for sake of power, Dahlia gives Valks +7% attack which is tempting indeed, and Emilia, not sure what her ability is. Or would you recommend both Dahlia and Thetis? I guess a priority list would be better than just "keep one, bench the others" since I'll eventually be able to level them all, I've got my main team all AW and several backups as well.
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    I have -1 cr kerry now with todays pull should i need 2nd valkyrie? Last subjugation map needed 2 valkyries but i do have a Julian too, so what'd you guys suggest for me. Well like others said we farm last event map anyway for silvers but the main question is focus on emilia or not after event?

    (and off-topic question: anybody here actually using victoria? I have both spica and -1 cr bashira)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ramazan View Post
    I have -1 cr kerry now with todays pull should i need 2nd valkyrie? Last subjugation map needed 2 valkyries but i do have a Julian too, so what'd you guys suggest for me. Well like others said we farm last event map anyway for silvers but the main question is focus on emilia or not after event?

    (and off-topic question: anybody here actually using victoria? I have both spica and -1 cr bashira)
    I doubt having a second Valkyrie would HURT lol, though prioritizing depends on where your other units stand.

    As for Victoria versus Spica versus Bashira, Victoria loses out most of the time (Spica u want for the AW bonus, extends her range and attack for a VERY long time, and is easier to CR since she comes with -1 built-in and is guaranteed access via TP, plus she has Skill UP fodder in the silver Lauren; against Bashira, enemies need to have really high defense for Victoria to beat Bashira in damage, or she has to be attacking for the majority of her much longer lasting skill). In the end, they fill different niches. Bashira is burst, Victoria is sustained damage and Spica is sustained damage that trades some power for more range.

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    Should level her too then. Tho i already have so many ranged units :/ monica, stray, maxed soma, vincent...

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    Should level her too then. Tho i already have so many ranged units :/ monica, stray, maxed soma, vincent...
    Skip Stray, IMO, he does get a MASSIVE range boost (60!) but his attack speed slows down to the point where I'd just go with Pirates who have only slightly less range, similar attack rate while having huge attack lead (plus if you AW your Monica you get Demon Crystal drop rate boost!). He does get an attack 5 enemies or something like that Skill AW, I think, but given his attack speed...

    Soma is silver so she shouldn't be hard to raise if you want a cheap, decent archer

    Vincent is OK, his class is insane when AW vs. undead but the event that spams them at you just passed so IDK if you want to level him right now.

    of the ones you've stated you have so far, IMO leveling priority should be:
    Spica > Monica = Bashira (sustained + DC drop boost vs. huge burst) > Victoria > Soma > Vincent > Stray

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    i have spica (aw maxed) , bashira cc-ed max , and nanaly aw 89. Adn that's bsides a max lvl aw monica and some other ranged units i can't remember now. I even wanted to cc the plat event archer which name i can't remember as well since i like her art quite a bit .

    generally speaking , having archers is not bad. Problem is that they are expensive to cc. Also , having extra duelists is not bad either

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    Quote Originally Posted by IvanLedah21 View Post
    Skip Stray, IMO, he does get a MASSIVE range boost (60!) but his attack speed slows down to the point where I'd just go with Pirates who have only slightly less range, similar attack rate while having huge attack lead (plus if you AW your Monica you get Demon Crystal drop rate boost!). He does get an attack 5 enemies or something like that Skill AW, I think, but given his attack speed...

    Soma is silver so she shouldn't be hard to raise if you want a cheap, decent archer

    Vincent is OK, his class is insane when AW vs. undead but the event that spams them at you just passed so IDK if you want to level him right now.

    of the ones you've stated you have so far, IMO leveling priority should be:
    Spica > Monica = Bashira (sustained + DC drop boost vs. huge burst) > Victoria > Soma > Vincent > Stray
    Well dead king isnt the only event that contains undead, imelias event and even shukas event had undead units so i'd put vincent at more upwards. Other than that yeah, i wont bother with stray while have 2 plat archers, probably use him at aw or rainbow crystal exchange since he's premium.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lolix View Post
    i have spica (aw maxed) , bashira cc-ed max , and nanaly aw 89. Adn that's bsides a max lvl aw monica and some other ranged units i can't remember now. I even wanted to cc the plat event archer which name i can't remember as well since i like her art quite a bit .

    generally speaking , having archers is not bad. Problem is that they are expensive to cc. Also , having extra duelists is not bad either
    That should be rita. I would prioritize on victoria over monica, but you've seen the patch notes, pirates are so awesome right now with their increased speed and slow (tested it myself with monica) they already had higher damage and range. Anyway should level them both then if you say so.

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