Thread: 2k summons

Ivan, I was obviously referring to Piece of Crystal SP summons, not SC Premium summons. The fact that they can earn stamp card rewards in increments and also be spent on refilling Stamina and Charisma should be enough to clue you in that I wasn't talking about them.

@anon, as long as you understand you're just giving yourself a placebo that's fine. If that feeling is worth enough to potentially hurt yourself in the long term then by all means, spend how you see fit. Also if you've already saved at least 300 Piece of Crystal then you've had ample opportunity to buy all the barracks upgrades which provide plenty of space for free players especially. Selling spirits is such a waste and I've never felt like I had too many spirits, if you start getting high you can always combine them with your Hashim fodder for bonus xp, even if you have no gold rarity units to raise its still better than outright selling them off.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ivan, I was obviously referring to Piece of Crystal SP summons, not SC Premium summons. The fact that they can earn stamp card rewards in increments and also be spent on refilling Stamina and Charisma should be enough to clue you in that I wasn't talking about them.

its your mistake then , considering that the conversation was about sp cristals in the first place

What? I know the conversation was about SP crystals, everything I've said has been about SP crystals, I don't know where anyone got that I was talking about SC. I know english isn't a first language for everyone on these forums but I'm very confused about how you can possibly get things this turned around when my first post never mentioned SC.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Ivan, I was obviously referring to Piece of Crystal SP summons, not SC Premium summons. The fact that they can earn stamp card rewards in increments and also be spent on refilling Stamina and Charisma should be enough to clue you in that I wasn't talking about them.

@anon, as long as you understand you're just giving yourself a placebo that's fine. If that feeling is worth enough to potentially hurt yourself in the long term then by all means, spend how you see fit. Also if you've already saved at least 300 Piece of Crystal then you've had ample opportunity to buy all the barracks upgrades which provide plenty of space for free players especially. Selling spirits is such a waste and I've never felt like I had too many spirits, if you start getting high you can always combine them with your Hashim fodder for bonus xp, even if you have no gold rarity units to raise its still better than outright selling them off.

Wait, hold on a moment. Piece of Crystal (from the stamp card/subjugation events) can be used to refill stamina/charisma and expand barracks? Since when? Sacred Crystals can, PoC are used in increments of 5 for free summons that are somewhere between Base and Rare in drop rates.

I'm not sure you understand the terminology you're using, because at least on Nutaku, Piece of Crystal has nothing to do with stamina/charisma refills or stamp card UP or barracks upgrading. And on Nutaku, there is no such thing as SP Crystals, there are Sacred Crystals, Demon Crystals and Piece of Crystal

Serious? "They" is referring to SC in that second sentence. Again if you'd use simple context clues it is easy to figure out which I'm referring to but I suppose I have to be very direct in my terminology every sentence or people mistake you for being an idiot who doesn't understand what each resource in this game does -.- I don't play on DMM at all so saying "on Nutaku" is redundant as I'm not confusing things with the DMM side. By SP crystals I obviously mean the Piece of Crystal items used for SP summons and SP summons only that can only be used with Piece of Crystal. Is that clear enough yet?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Serious? "They" is referring to SC in that second sentence. Again if you'd use simple context clues it is easy to figure out which I'm referring to but I suppose I have to be very direct in my terminology every sentence or people mistake you for being an idiot who doesn't understand what each resource in this game does -.- I don't play on DMM at all so saying "on Nutaku" is redundant as I'm not confusing things with the DMM side. By SP crystals I obviously mean the Piece of Crystal items used for SP summons and SP summons only that can only be used with Piece of Crystal. Is that clear enough yet?

Sigh... breaking that down...

"They" is referring to SC in that second sentence
OK, re-reading that, I can see that.

Again if you'd use simple context clues it is easy to figure out which I'm referring to but I suppose I have to be very direct in my terminology every sentence or people mistake you for being an idiot who doesn't understand what each resource in this game does -.-
Just because I misread what you said doesn't mean you have to get all snappy with me. I'm not in game, never really paid attention to what the Piece of Crystal summon is called, so sorry if I don't connect SP to Piece of Crystal right away.

I don't play on DMM at all so saying "on Nutaku" is redundant as I'm not confusing things with the DMM side
You're an unregistered user, how am I supposed to know whether or not you play on DMM?

By SP crystals I obviously mean the Piece of Crystal items used for SP summons and SP summons only that can only be used with Piece of Crystal
As I said, not in-game and didn't know what the PoC summon is called, sorry.

Is that clear enough yet?
Yes, now please dial the confrontational level down a bit.


Sorry if I'm now being harsh, but I just feel you really overreacted so I'm responding somewhat in kind.
It's still perfectly valid to wait on SP summoning until new silvers, and even golds (rare as they'll still be in SP summon, chances aren't much better than base) are added if you are hoping for those. Just because chances are much lower in Base/SP summon than Premium doesn't mean you have to act like Gold+ doesn't exist for SP summon

I'm being snappy because too often people respond with the first thing out of their ass without even reading the post well enough to understand what's being discussed. Mistakes are fine but it happens far too often on this forum, and from the same people. Many times it would be better if you just don't respond at all if all you are bringing to the table is confusion and misinformation. I gave what I thought was fine advice, and a regged user comes along and says it's not valid, even though that's because you seem to have misread it. Can you really blame someone for "getting snappy" when they are incorrectly corrected and then told to "dial it down"? Finally, I also already pointed out the exception of new silvers being added. (again highlighting that you aren't comprehending very well)

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

@anon, as long as you understand you're just giving yourself a placebo that's fine. If that feeling is worth enough to potentially hurt yourself in the long term then by all means, spend how you see fit. Also if you've already saved at least 300 Piece of Crystal then you've had ample opportunity to buy all the barracks upgrades which provide plenty of space for free players especially. Selling spirits is such a waste and I've never felt like I had too many spirits, if you start getting high you can always combine them with your Hashim fodder for bonus xp, even if you have no gold rarity units to raise its still better than outright selling them off.

I do realize it's just a placebo and I'm fine with that.
I have the second barracks but I have about 180 units that are silver+ and the bronze units that I keep because they are fully lvled and I sometimes use them. I currently have 85 spirits and tin cans. The rest of my second barracks is 100% full of fodder (mostly bronze) that I save for when units are over lvl 30 and when I AW units. When I AWed my Spika I lvled her to 90 instantly because of the bronze+tin cans+spirits.

100 gold spirits seemed excessive to me and the 2000 gold I get seems better to me than a bronze units value in exp.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I'm being snappy because too often people respond with the first thing out of their ass without even reading the post well enough to understand what's being discussed. Mistakes are fine but it happens far too often on this forum, and from the same people. Many times it would be better if you just don't respond at all if all you are bringing to the table is confusion and misinformation. I gave what I thought was fine advice, and a regged user comes along and says it's not valid, even though that's because you seem to have misread it. Can you really blame someone for "getting snappy" when they are incorrectly corrected and then told to "dial it down"? Finally, I also already pointed out the exception of new silvers being added. (again highlighting that you aren't comprehending very well)

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and remove all doubt.

I misunderstood, responded based on the misunderstanding, and then with your clarification admitted I misread your post and apologized. I agree with your exception of new silvers being added, and added new gold units to that because even if the chances aren't great, they're non-existent if they haven't been added yet when you roll. I'd like to request we end our current hostility now.

BTW, I understand your frustration with mistakes and misunderstandings on forums, happens quite often to me as well. Hoping this apology settles the issue.


@Anon, using the gold spirits as opposed to selling them, when not used on a gold unit, would be worth it if you used them with a Silver+ unit instead of the bronze fodder you have stockpiled. Otherwise, it's just easier to use 4 bronze fodder since they're so easily farmed. If you don't mind me asking, how long have you been playing? It would seem you've been playing a LONG time if you have that much fodder stockpiled, and yet at the same time, you have ALL your units leveled? Not even niche units left to level? I rarely have a surplus of spirits but I do level lots of units I may never use because either 1) I MIGHT use them in the right situation and/or 2) Just to CC for the extra scene ; )
Either way, if you're just waiting on new units to level/CC/AW then I guess it's OK to sell spirits but I personally would rather sell the fodder than the spirits (especially since I run Spirit Rescue G and Women's Battle on weekends, so I don't get many gold spirits anymore, so when new Gold units from Shrine or events come along, I often find myself short on gold spirits)

I've been playing since the end of April 2015. I have most units leveled that I use or are likely to use (But only 2 AW with 2-3 more ready). Only 3 gold units used regularly, 3 more occasionally, and 15 I never use. The ones I never use are lvl 50 but not CCed. Being stuck at the "Wall of Magic" afforded me far too many gold spirits to use on just gold units and I don't use silver+ for fodder unless they are the same unit and when I do I use the appropriate spirit for 2x-8x exp so even then the gold spirits are not useful.

The closest I will get to selling silver units is "trading" them for the units in the trading post (Which I did to get Niel,Ertel and fully CR Percis & Khuri) and the bronze fodder I currently have will be used to quickly lvl Mikoto once I AW her.

If this is how you feel I probably shouldn't tell you about the time I sold 20 black spirits before I had my second barracks. My only black at the time was Saki and she was already leveled, Even now my only other black is Mikoto and she was fully leveled instantly and ready for AW and will be rapidly leveled after that as well(Hopfully next week, this week I couldn't get the last orb no matter how much I tried, damn you RNGesus)