Thread: Is it time to riot?

All this sounds so depressing. Although I am a freemium player - a more or less useless species.

As an opinion to help the situation tho, if Nutaku implements revivals, as well as keep the TP rotation for at least event units running, I think most of this backlash can be solved. The real problem is not in not having event every week imo, I am quite comfortable with the flow of events as they currently go. The real problem in doing the same thing over and over. Basically usual free week for me would be doing story/challenge missions on tuesday, friday, saturday and sunday, dailies on monday, wednesday and thursday... And that's all. There's really no variety of things that I can do. And while it's so so fine with players like me who have plenty of ways to go yet (CCs, AWs, leveling) it's really nothing for those who are past or close to past this stage. With revivals these players will get something to go for again, so Nutaku will win some time again. One "but" however is that this breathing space will not be huge, as many players are already prepared to chew on those events the instant they come out, so Nutaku really need to think several steps further then that.

Real problem is that Nutaku can't. do. a. damn.
And JP developers, who are managing our version, just simply don't. give. a. single. fsck. about us filthy gaijin subhumans.

Fair enough... I guess it's time to learn Japanese <_<

I still don't get one thing - we lost the whole summer due to that "takeover", and now they are saying that "japanese team decided to take our version back in their hands". That means that those lazy asses from Nutaku done NOTHING AT ALL during last summer? Because, like they said, by now that takeover should've been completed already, and it'll be completely meaningless to give up their rights if takeover is completed. Which means that THEY'VE DONE NOTHING AT ALL, am I right?

WAIT. I have just re read their post and noticed

In previous posts we've written a bit about Nutaku's future hopes for Aigis, and we will continue to work with the original developers to deliver on those concepts

part.... Maybe that first part was an irony? Like, "Look at those shitheads, now they want to take our Aigis back, lol"?

It is not the first time JP devs gone back on the agreement a the last moment. If you followed FKG you might remember the whole Bride voting event disaster, where that gentle and caring JP devs agreed to make bride versions for he winners of our side contest only to "Nope" in the middle of it. Or so Nutaku says

Meh, there's always a hope devs would listen to Nuts and give us revivals at least. As they say, hope dies last, even after the man himself

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

Real problem is that Nutaku can't. do. a. damn.
And JP developers, who are managing our version, just simply don't. give. a. single. fsck. about us filthy gaijin subhumans.

Problem is, our only form of communication with the japanese devs are through nutaku.
I truly doubt the Japanese would be lurking in our forums and we have no real chance to talk to them either. So everything that nutaku says is taken as gospel. Albeit they don't abide to it themselves.
There will a new event in 3 months. 3 months later, JUST JOKING, ITS THE JAP DEVS FAULT *insert insulting gif*

Pretty much the reason I prefer the DMM version, the japanese devs there tend to keep their promises that they post on twitter etc.

Originally Posted by buttlover

Pretty much the reason I prefer the DMM version, the japanese devs there tend to keep their promises that they post on twitter etc.

But why reward the japanese devs, who are at major fault that nutaku aigis is at quite a bit of stalemate?
This fact and the fact I can't japanese is the reason that I'll most likely never touch dmm aigis even though I thought about it multiple times.

Originally Posted by Overload

But why reward the japanese devs, who are at major fault that nutaku aigis is at quite a bit of stalemate?
This fact and the fact I can't japanese is the reason that I'll most likely never touch dmm aigis even though I thought about it multiple times.

Fuck that shit political game that nutaku and the jap devs are playing. I support good content creation.
Naturally being an english speaker, I am biased toward nutaku.
But when they fail to deliver, most of the time, they blame it on the japanese devs and then claim innocence.
For years EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. Only a fool will continue to trust them.

WHO DECIDED TO ANNOUNCE NEWS BEFORE BEING ABLE TO CONFIRMING THE PRODUCT? EVER HEARD OF CONTRACTS?
Clearly if they had written contracts and DMM isn't able to uphold, they are liable. DOESN'T SEEM THAT WAY TO ME.
As nutaku themselves say, they are a small team (mostly marketing people imo) and DMM games require a consistent dedicated team of programmers.


Aigis is a good game and well developed product. I support that.
The translations and porting over of the english version is slow and terribly done. I supported the idea but not the process. I no longer support that.

Who deserves to be rewarded is clear in my mind.
If a company keeps blaming external factors for years and still has that same problem today, is a lousy company.

Justify it however you want, but you got a second rate service from both your "good content creators" as well as Nutaku and now you want to reward the first party for pissing on you and calling it rain.

Originally Posted by Talith

Justify it however you want, but you got a second rate service from both your "good content creators" as well as Nutaku and now you want to reward the first party for pissing on you and calling it rain.

You are mistaken. When I take out my wallet and pay for content, I expect good content.

When I pay DMM, I expect that from DMM.
When I pay Nutaku, I expect that from Nutaku.

If nutaku makes promises but doesn't keep them, I don't blame DMM for promises nutaku has made. I dont need excuses, I just pay another content provider.

I would love to mindlessly pick up a pitchfork to crucify whoever nutaku tells me to point at, and i did that for half a year. But nutaku's blanket statements never changes and i grow weary of waiting. I can only assume 1. they cant incentivize the devs effectively (cost vs returns not enough) 2. they are too busy with their other projects (either one or both of them) 3. communication breakdown - all speculation but I would love an official statement to correct me.

Either way, I did not let biased views, stop me from at least trying out a FREE superior version of a game I enjoy.
At least, as a direct user of DMM, they keep their promises. Constant entertainment. Frequent events and they even celebrate holidays.

DMM is a big company. Their website alone generates 500+ million USD a year. The people implementing aigis content and those in contact with nutaku might very well be different parts of the company.

Personally, I would try out both sides before jumping to conclusions.