Thread: Some advices + Shizuka

Originally Posted by Nero010

Since i started after horace event, i guess... at least i have Anemone for that job?
Im more or less asking about what i lack so i know what i should hope for to cross my way And also to know if i need to invest in the gold version of that class or just waste my resources.



I guess it fits pretty well that shizuka also increases the ATK of Saki (which i just recrently got and since shes my first and only black, have like 30 spirits for her). So if AWing Saki i should propably AW Shizuka first. An interesting thought could also be Kojuro the male gold samurai... idk. He boosts all Samurais defence by 5% so hed also boost shizuka and vice versa with my sherry+shizuka+himself AW he would gain 5%hp, 10%def and 12% more Atk. I just dont know if thats worth the investment. I guess he would still fall behind mehlis or zola. Belinda might be an option too i guess, since i have no yuyu(one of the only golds im lacking) or any other witch then Cloris she propably doesnt stand as high as usual on the list. I was also thinking about investing into Emilia since i have realy no ramp unit atm (besides Elaine) and who knows when next subjugation hits, her hp in terms of another lightning rod are actualy pretty much the same as kerrys and just baaarely lower then themis hers too. Kerry would be boosted by sherry though.

Kojuro is a waste if you have Shizuka (actually, he's generally a waste period), but Saki and Shizuka synergize pretty well. Belinda is a good idea as well, and as previously stated Zola is good too, with Mehlis a reasonable option. Anemone is decent but she's way down on the list, and I wouldn't worry about a magic ranged melee right now since Magic Kingdom seems to be a LONG way away (considering we still haven't gotten the 2nd half of Eastern Kingdom). Emilia is a decent UP ramp though I'd probably go Kerry (cheaper being Gold, gets boost from AW Sherry, and her stats aren't semi-gimped due to having Holy Awakening as skill)

I'd look at an order like this:
Saki > Shizuka > Zola/Belinda (AoE vs. Witch) > Kerry > Mehlis > Anemone (if you don't draw Sabinne or OMG Sybilla or have access to Horace revival by this point)

Man, how much i wish id get sybilla... shes my fav, look and art wise, and pretty much one of the reason i sticked with this game the first few days once i saw her. I yolo´ed two summons just for the very very very low chance i get supreme luck drawing her. Well i got Shizuka instat, that is lucky too. And her art is one of my favs also. Just sad she got no AW art.
Only thing which helds Emelia against Kerry is that my Emilia is min cost, skill 4/5 and my Kerry max cost so cced Emilia is at 10 UP, Kerry at 13 UP. Kerry would be cheaper to rise though. I hate this decision lol

Originally Posted by Samyy

if i were you i won't call kojuro a waste since the biggest whale on dmm uses a mincosted kojuro over hibari. that being said.samurai has little to no application in current nutaku or future.as sad as it is..the event samurai>shizuka practically. because of lr placement. shizuka is just a off tank rush blocker in places where u cant afford or reach a healer with( considering nutaku took like ever to release a priest warrior)..in future role of shizuka? none..all the more defunct after hibari a free black :/...future role for momoji/kojuro..pretty solid..y? momoji is off lr that can kill a blue majin wid buffs nd non aw stats..kojuro can stop rush and is pretty easy to place if min costed :/...provided nutaku gives free gold rushes of him in future :/

So ud say with S.AW giving Shizuka 300% more ATK and DEF and selfhealing (10% instat of 15) and droping her to one block makes her not have a use or puts her as a duelist even above units like sherry? Sure.

Because you have Shizuka, you'd be AWing Kojuro almost only for the buff (and male maps) so I'd put most of your premium team ahead in priority but definitely something to think about when you have extra DCs an silvers for it.

@Ivan, I literally said that in my post..the only scenarios where I see it even happening involve withdraw shenanigans and lightning rod use anyway.

Originally Posted by Samyy

if i were you i won't call kojuro a waste since the biggest whale on dmm uses a mincosted kojuro over hibari. that being said.samurai has little to no application in current nutaku or future.as sad as it is..the event samurai>shizuka practically. because of lr placement. shizuka is just a off tank rush blocker in places where u cant afford or reach a healer with( considering nutaku took like ever to release a priest warrior)..in future role of shizuka? none..all the more defunct after hibari a free black :/...future role for momoji/kojuro..pretty solid..y? momoji is off lr that can kill a blue majin wid buffs nd non aw stats..kojuro can stop rush and is pretty easy to place if min costed :/...provided nutaku gives free gold rushes of him in future :/

Even if all that is true... who knows when Hibari will show up, a free black on Nutaku is a sketchy idea given their track record, Momoji isn't like the other samurai anyways, Kojuro min-costed is a sketchy idea since Nutaku's pace says without whaling you aren't going to get that for about 3 years if that...

As far as Nutaku goes AT PRESENT, not looking at the future of only god knows when, Shizuka totally outclasses Kojuro outside of cost in 95% of situations. Kojuro might have solid status on DMM, but this thread is about Nutaku, where he's an off-tank rush blocker just like Shizuka, with superior HP and during skill, Defense (though she's self-healing to make up for this).

Side Question: what's lr stand for?

Originally Posted by Samyy

if i were you i won't call kojuro a waste since the biggest whale on dmm uses a mincosted kojuro over hibari.

Wait what. Please don't take what a whale does for fun as a logical point for an argument.
Are you telling me if forced to delete one unit, you'll pick removing hibari over kojuro?

Either way shizuka is a valid pick in nutaku. Hibari isn't ever gonna be released to nutaku within the next 2 years at least.
I am sure, there will be a revival in DMM before nutaku even gets a chance at her. I need her. Q_Q

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I did Update the thread after my last rolling spree. Please look into it!

well grace , fignelia and camilla are the obvious choices. Actually , i'd raise and aw camilla first because shes quite a bit better then her sister (i have one on my main)

Grace is a black , and by that fact alone , she's very strong. On top of that she has a rather powerfull skill and a great AW passive.

As for figelia...well she's a great DPS witch , but that's pretty much it. She's going to hit llike a truck , but i don't see her as a high priority. At least not over the other 2 anyway

Lolix beat me to it. Camilla is in all honesty probably our best healer (due to Liana being pseudo-nerfed by the lack of her event/UP adjustment to compensate for shift to premium, as well as her niche skill instead of buffing healing output) as she outheals Liana during skill and has way more reasonable UP cost.

Grace is a black, do we really need to go there?

I don't use Fignelia due to having raised Adele, Despara and Yuyu, but seems like a solid unit.

to be fair , we also got black Iris/Elise , so she's not our best healer anymore (at least not overall. She IS the best burst healer we have tho.....with the second best probably being shiho during skill usage , or chydys - which for some reason we still cant get because nutaku doesnt want us to have older TP post units back....), but she is still one of the best