Thread: Some advices + Shizuka

Its very likely though that i will pretty much never use Shizuka AND Chizuru in one map though, right? And i guess if i had to choose between them i pick Shizuka who also buffs herself (putting her above Chizuru in Attack again). If i need lots of HP i have Imelia AND min cost Lolonne. And pretty much every Archer duo or Assassin (which would be the least UP cost version and the most underrated) can deal with early rushes pretty quick cant they?

Originally Posted by Nero010

Its very likely though that i will pretty much never use Shizuka AND Chizuru in one map though, right? And i guess if i had to choose between them i pick Shizuka who also buffs herself (putting her above Chizuru in Attack again). If i need lots of HP i have Imelia AND min cost Lolonne. And pretty much every Archer duo or Assassin (which would be the least UP cost version and the most underrated) can deal with early rushes pretty quick cant they?

Don't get me wrong, I was just analyzing raw stat gaps between the samurai. I'd take Shizuka over Chizuru almost any day (lower defense but higher HP makes healing incoming damage more difficult and the HP bars deceptive). Early rushes are generally handled by Archers/Witches + Soldiers, possibly a rogue if you're not sure you can kill quick enough and want to gamble (I believe Castle Retake has a Cypria-reliant strategy for underleveled players looking to rush to Dragon Hunting/Flame Dragon, as an example of this), Samurai are a mid-map anti-rush mob clearer class, and while Chizuru's cost is lower than other samurai, it isn't low enough to be viable for early rushes in most cases.

Yeah... I used that Cypria-reliant strategy back then xD i was still suprised when i had to throw her in as an emergency "token" cause i just barely had what it took (one eastern map for example) how ... well ... she performs even at none cc just lvl 50 without relaying on her skill at all. One day i will raise her and use her just for the interest. Not now. But one day. Idk why but i wanna break this anti rouge meta open D: xD

btw. I have 10 Rainbowspirits and rarely ever used some. Looking at the units I have (knowing this might be a more complex question) whos skill should i start to level or focus into? (Also considering maaaaaybe future S.AW). I came up with that question as Shizukas skill is one that needs to be leveled to reach its "great potential" of a free plat level healer to herself but can only be leveled via Rainbows (most likely).

Originally Posted by Nero010

Yeah... I used that Cypria-reliant strategy back then xD i was still suprised when i had to throw her in as an emergency "token" cause i just barely had what it took (one eastern map for example) how ... well ... she performs even at none cc just lvl 50 without relaying on her skill at all. One day i will raise her and use her just for the interest. Not now. But one day. Idk why but i wanna break this anti rouge meta open D: xD

btw. I have 10 Rainbowspirits and rarely ever used some. Looking at the units I have (knowing this might be a more complex question) whos skill should i start to level or focus into? (Also considering maaaaaybe future S.AW). I came up with that question as Shizukas skill is one that needs to be leveled to reach its "great potential" of a free plat level healer to herself but can only be leveled via Rainbows (most likely).

Rogues are generally bad outside of Cypria and Berna due to insufficient stats resulting in RNG reliance. Cypria and Berna at least have stats to be decent duelists even without Assassinate (against moderate hitters Cypria does get dodge-reliant somewhat, Berna is surprisingly tough for her cost due to HP + Defense affection and high stats due to Black rarity).

For rainbow spirits, top 2 picks of what you've got are Shizuka and Sherry.

Shizuka's skill when leveled is worthy of calling a "pocket healer" (15% of max HP per hit is ~380 HP per hit at max level, about 50CC50 max affection Alissa healing every 1.2 seconds or something like that for 10 seconds every 25 seconds without the extra deploy slot; might not sound THAT great, but it is if heal slots aren't readily available nearby, or even if they are it's extra healing if "burst healing" is needed for her)

Sherry is your primary duelist and she attacks magically, but she does have some issues taking hits against strong enemies, so killing them in 2-3 hits is good.

Spica's skill is great but I'd refrain from using rainbows on her due to extra copies being available from TP and Lauren the silver archer sharing her skill meaning when he's farmable you can possibly get a skill up or two there.

General consensus is that if you're gonna use a samurai, use Shizuka. She's definitely a good tank-substitute as someone already said, not to mention her SAW turns her into a god tier duelist.

Don't listen to haters! Never regret leveling the honorable samurai army:

Only reason why they didn't give shizuku as much hp is because she is already OP enough as it is.

She can pretty much be fielded solo without a healer if get your timing down.

High attk+3 blocks+cleave+"life steal"

Chizuru seems too niche as Nero pointed out, almost any time you'd want her anything else would suffice for early rushes. Her utility as cheap, strong lighting rod who can avoid magic attacks with her skill though is probably very awesome on some maps.

As to Ivan's point, I'd say Kojuro is far from useless exactly because he has Shizuka. Once she's leveled, if you find you are getting good use out of her then I think eventually AWing Kojuro would be a very good move because of synergizing AW buffs. Kojuro on his own already has the stats of a great offtank as well (Increase Def IV let's not forget). You rarely need the raw def of two heavies, so Bernice and Kojuro are my two main blockers for most maps. He's also great help on male only maps, let me beat Toast to Men G with no buffs and without the real premiums like Gellius and Jerome. Because you have Shizuka, you'd be AWing Kojuro almost only for the buff (and male maps) so I'd put most of your premium team ahead in priority but definitely something to think about when you have extra DCs an silvers for it.

As to rainbows, I'd just save them as long as space permits until you need them for a particular map due to how few you receive as a non-whale. Priorities may change a lot if we get SAW ahead of schedule or some weird map comes out so I always prefer to have enough banked to likely max a premium skill when I need it. As said though, you can't really go wrong with skills like Sherry and Shizuka though.