Thread: Question about a few units I rolled last night

Chill, nothing to disagree here.

Eric is just OCD. I mean that man has 20+ iron/bronze units. Jeez.

But I do understand some peope just have to collect all units they can or they got insane. (more insane)

Originally Posted by lolix

There are many characters that are related to each other in the game. Take iris and camilla (sisters). The 2 plat princesses are cousins , and sybilla is the prince's cousin. Vincent (the gold vamp hunter) also has a daughter that is an event unit if i remember correctly. Lyla is Condrad's daughter if i remember correctly as well...and so on

Yeah i know them but what surprised me is they turned her original mom to her stepmother...

Originally Posted by Ericridge

What's greedy lich?

one guy, who tried to do every maps he could with only iron and bronze unit

Originally Posted by Samyy

mmm he maybe right :v belinda isnt worth lvl ing xD...if u hav yuyu / chloris which am sure u have chloris for...u actually dont need belinda except sc farm maps....she has lil to no application :v again depends on viewpoint..considering we have awakened instant ReinforcementIII where 35-36 mage is ofc far better thn belinda/any witch below despara...so y waste resource on her ?also belinda>adele = yuyu :P in actual scenerio of use...tht makes most witches useless except the black..considering aegis is abt threshold damage...belinda falls desperately low evn for a 13 uc witch e.e where u can ow place a max soldier n call furthur help. hope that clears the idea of what n how much good she is . again it depends on discretion..she was suppose to be a beginner event unit which dmm started wid..n nutaku gave post aw...prolly thts y this :P

Belinda is totally worth leveling....even over yuyu , who , while still a good witch , costs generally more then her (assuming yuyu is not cr-ed for some weird reason) , lacks the AW passive that belinda gets , and also lacks the platinum deploy/cd skills



In the end , everyone can do whatever the heck they want with their accounts , but there is a reason why most people want revivals and want the older units , and thats simply because those are pretty much the best event units we got.


Stuff like belinda , aria , karma , anya , and odette are really good to have. After them , most units became more and more niche

Jeez relax guys, my iron/bronze units to me is the equivalent of toy green soldiers I used to play with as a little kid. Picture upload attachment to help you understand what it meant if your childhood sucked.

I used to have "epic" wars between green vs tan soldiers all the time back then.

Blizzard?
Rain?
Heat wave?
Normal Day?
Huge dirt hill?

Did wars in almost all kinds of weather conditions.

Which is why I'm sad that theres no iron/bronze priests and valkyries, etc. Lack of those specific units in iron/bronze really prevents my toy armies in aigis from coming together fully.

Originally Posted by Samyy

belinda is optional...karma anya odette are not. ur either fallowin a wrong strategy or going the long way..witches have lil to no use except prim or despara :v and yuyu dps>belinda...so y waste time wen we simply put a witch for dps .___.

Err, no. Witches are generally put down for their slowing capability and early magic damage for a cheap cost. Belinda, who can be mincosted fairly easily is still widely used even by DMM players when they actually need a witch. Furthermore, the claims that Yuyu has better dps is a bit overrated. Her attack speed is in fact not that incredibly much better than standard witches and an AW Belinda comes with her passive that grants her a nice deal of extra attack.

...actually, here, let me put down the numbers for you and anyone in the future that keeps going on about Yuyu's "oh so much better dps." I am guilty of this myself, i admit, but that's because i missread a name once, which was Ryuryu, another witch which gains an attack speed passive.

Dps at max AW level with 21% prince buff:
Yuyu: 647atk x 0.53as = 343 dps
Belinda: 689atk x 0.52as = 358 dps

Attack speed numbers taken from here: http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B9%B6%B7%E2%C2%AE%C5%D9
Rest is pure math :P

Originally Posted by Samyy

belinda is optional...karma anya odette are not. ur either fallowin a wrong strategy or going the long way..witches have lil to no use except prim or despara :v and yuyu dps>belinda...so y waste time wen we simply put a witch for dps .___.

Belinda is still the better witch. She improves all other witches , usually comes cheaper and is free. Besides that , she is plat (aka faster skill usage)



Yuyu requires you getting lucky in a premium draw , and that's not a reliable way of getting units (even gold ones).



Also witches are more reliable then mages , lol , considering u will use mages less often then witches in general.. Also , most maps can be done with literally any mage, or even with a summoner , without that much of a difference. On a side note , range increase witches are needed on some maps if u don't want to have to cc like 3 silver witches in her stead...

^^ @lolix for the above reasons I don't really put Odette in the same tier as Karma, Anya, and Belinda either. She's a fine unit, but she's very far from non-optional.

Originally Posted by Tenhou

Dps at max AW level with 21% prince buff:
Yuyu: 647atk x 0.53as = 343 dps
Belinda: 689atk x 0.52as = 358 dps

(~￣▽￣)~ Oh snap, Tenhou with the facts. (~￣▽￣)~

Originally Posted by Samyy

@tenhou..dmm isnt moron free either :P plz tell me why you will include a witch with chrono witch necromancer and as i stated before a reinforce III soldier or 2 already there...if ur comparing the end game dps of yuyu and belinda thts actually more for belinda then u showed me considering prince passive for her aw ability increases her ap and ur forgetting the half elven yuyu's bloodline that will make her x1.5 more/3sec ovr belinda..but u have to consider y we put witches :P theres absolutely no reason to.when i can put a ton of other useful units..its like say...not too long ago ppl used to call samurai/shogun useless..the same guys r using hibari like no tommorrow now...so if i wanna arrange my sortie i will bring my most useful units there..among them i wud see wat can be done by who..so i will choose a 17 uc witch there when i can have a 35 up reinforcing soldier that can put anya or a chrono witch early game or a necro that can do1.9k dps at 6 up more ?if u wanna be sympahetic to witch i wud say closest poor man's witch is yuyu bcz of her availability and cost..other wise in dmm no not worth it. unless you have prim a plat tht can beat black chrono witch in dps :P ow n i bet u dont use a witch bcz u got esther in dmm > demn you getting esther >
@lolix...i really dont get how mages r less reliable then witches..i didnt even use calliope in all my dmm-nutaku aegis life..except aw fodder :v the fact tht a guy can ignore belinda's farm is totally agreeable wen his developing a healer that u gonna need on every map..most just place her in barracks n forget her. now if ur considering it from a freemiums point of view..even he will consider to bring his best units in game..so ..considering his timeline from after karma event..which we both are in nutaku..u think either of us will use a belinda ovr solano ?

Dear lord, paragraphing and spacing man. Please.

I am typing on my mobile and I can type better than that.