Thread: Question about a few units I rolled last night

Originally Posted by lolix

Belinda is a cheap (esp if cr-ed) witch with good dps , and great utility.

Terrible belinda drop rates made me decide it wasn't worth doing nothing for one week trying in vain. Therefore I cleared every single stage exactly once for sacred crystals + Single copy of belinda.

If Nutaku truly wanted me to grind in Belinda maps, then they would've have put in better drop rates instead of shit drop rates. But as everyone knows, they chose to go with terrible drop rates.

Thus I took a gameplay choice that would make me the happiest.

Although this is coming from someone who have 20+ maxed level iron/bronze units under muh command. I simply didn't give any fucks. However Lucille's drop rates was good. I grinded Lucille's maps.

wow you are on par with Greedy Lich, 20+ max level iron/ bronze are really something

Originally Posted by namhoang909

wow you are on par with Greedy Lich, 20+ max level iron/ bronze are really something

What's greedy lich?

Originally Posted by Ericridge

What's greedy lich?

one guy, who tried to do every maps he could with only iron and bronze unit

Originally Posted by Ericridge

Although this is coming from someone who have 20+ maxed level iron/bronze units under muh command. I simply didn't give any fucks. However Lucille's drop rates was good. I grinded Lucille's maps.

Belinda starts at cr 2 already , on par with premium units. Besides that , shes the spica of witches , and she will help u pass wall of magic (which requires very cheap witches/witches with range increase - at least level 2 of belinda's skill)


You could have easily tried to get another coppy at least for the guaranteed cr/su.





I seriously disagree with your decision here. Belinda is the best witch avaible to freemiums , and the 3rd best in the game after adele and despara. And the reason why adele is better is because her AW bonus affects all units , not just witches. Other then that , i actually preffer witches with range increase , rather then damage increase like adele is

Chill, nothing to disagree here.

Eric is just OCD. I mean that man has 20+ iron/bronze units. Jeez.

But I do understand some peope just have to collect all units they can or they got insane. (more insane)

Originally Posted by Samyy

mmm he maybe right :v belinda isnt worth lvl ing xD...if u hav yuyu / chloris which am sure u have chloris for...u actually dont need belinda except sc farm maps....she has lil to no application :v again depends on viewpoint..considering we have awakened instant ReinforcementIII where 35-36 mage is ofc far better thn belinda/any witch below despara...so y waste resource on her ?also belinda>adele = yuyu :P in actual scenerio of use...tht makes most witches useless except the black..considering aegis is abt threshold damage...belinda falls desperately low evn for a 13 uc witch e.e where u can ow place a max soldier n call furthur help. hope that clears the idea of what n how much good she is . again it depends on discretion..she was suppose to be a beginner event unit which dmm started wid..n nutaku gave post aw...prolly thts y this :P

Belinda is totally worth leveling....even over yuyu , who , while still a good witch , costs generally more then her (assuming yuyu is not cr-ed for some weird reason) , lacks the AW passive that belinda gets , and also lacks the platinum deploy/cd skills



In the end , everyone can do whatever the heck they want with their accounts , but there is a reason why most people want revivals and want the older units , and thats simply because those are pretty much the best event units we got.


Stuff like belinda , aria , karma , anya , and odette are really good to have. After them , most units became more and more niche

Jeez relax guys, my iron/bronze units to me is the equivalent of toy green soldiers I used to play with as a little kid. Picture upload attachment to help you understand what it meant if your childhood sucked.

I used to have "epic" wars between green vs tan soldiers all the time back then.

Blizzard?
Rain?
Heat wave?
Normal Day?
Huge dirt hill?

Did wars in almost all kinds of weather conditions.

Which is why I'm sad that theres no iron/bronze priests and valkyries, etc. Lack of those specific units in iron/bronze really prevents my toy armies in aigis from coming together fully.

Originally Posted by Samyy

belinda is optional...karma anya odette are not. ur either fallowin a wrong strategy or going the long way..witches have lil to no use except prim or despara :v and yuyu dps>belinda...so y waste time wen we simply put a witch for dps .___.

Err, no. Witches are generally put down for their slowing capability and early magic damage for a cheap cost. Belinda, who can be mincosted fairly easily is still widely used even by DMM players when they actually need a witch. Furthermore, the claims that Yuyu has better dps is a bit overrated. Her attack speed is in fact not that incredibly much better than standard witches and an AW Belinda comes with her passive that grants her a nice deal of extra attack.

...actually, here, let me put down the numbers for you and anyone in the future that keeps going on about Yuyu's "oh so much better dps." I am guilty of this myself, i admit, but that's because i missread a name once, which was Ryuryu, another witch which gains an attack speed passive.

Dps at max AW level with 21% prince buff:
Yuyu: 647atk x 0.53as = 343 dps
Belinda: 689atk x 0.52as = 358 dps

Attack speed numbers taken from here: http://aigis.gcwiki.info/?%B9%B6%B7%E2%C2%AE%C5%D9
Rest is pure math :P

Originally Posted by Tenhou

Dps at max AW level with 21% prince buff:
Yuyu: 647atk x 0.53as = 343 dps
Belinda: 689atk x 0.52as = 358 dps

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