Thread: Any Newbie Tips?

Originally Posted by Tinkermane

So been playing the game off and on over the years, and finally decided to start playing seriously. Just have a quick question or two I'd like answered.


1). It appears to be extremely difficult to actually level your units. To this extent, am I right in assuming the only way to actually level them effectively is to wait until the armor/fairy daily quests roll around and attempt to farm the crap out of them? Getting to the point my current team isn't really powerful enough to continue the story missions (currently stuck on Return to Ruins; even YouTube videos ain't enough to see me through).

2). Tying in to #1, affection is just as important as leveling obviously; should I save what SC I have for Skyfallen Daily on Wednesday? I would assume so, but figure it wont hurt for clarification. And I'm also assuming that archers/healers/maybe soldiers should also have a higher priority when giving gifts.

3). This is my current team. They've carried me quite far for the moment, and I'm pretty sure most of my problem right now stems from not having sufficient unit level and affection bonuses.

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These are all of the units I currently have, or the ones that are important anyway. Lot of what I have are extra silver units, as I hear its a bad idea to use those for exp fodder as they are used in evolution. I also have a Fallen Angel Sophie that you can't see (she's still level 1), and while her heal seems to be nice I simply don't seem to ever use her, so I replaced her with the silver rogue.

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Anything else I might have missed? Really bummed out that I'm going to miss the majority of this event (really want Noel at least), but the way I see it there isn't much I can do. Even trying to work on my team every day I'm not going to have units powerful enough to complete two more missions to get Noel.

lol dude, ur unit even better then me. and u still need advice. c'mon man.
i only have few gold unit. and mostly silver unit. now u understand?

Originally Posted by LZS

lol dude, ur unit even better then me. and u still need advice. c'mon man.
i only have few gold unit. and mostly silver unit. now u understand?

Does it make any difference what units we have? I followed the guides I found and then got stuck at a certain point. My entire topic revolved around, "What now?"


As for RuneKnight, all of the advice present to me so far has been helpful. My only complaint is how dedicated to this game you have to be. I have a habit of getting bored with games that require a crap-load of grinding, and I'm pretty sure this is exactly what's going to happen here. From what I gather it'll take me close to six months to a year just to get all of my team CC'd, let alone Awakened. That's an awful tall order for a game that doesn't have much of a pay off UNTIL you reach that point where you've got a strong CC'd/Awakened team. I guess I should be grateful that this game and its developers are still alive, at least. I ended up spending a lot of time with Kanpani Girls (which is even more grindy than this one), and the game is dead. No news updates from developers, haven't had an event since this past spring.

Guess I'll just see how it goes.

it does makes difference. plats & black unit has more stats than silver & gold unit.

btw, if just keep waiting till monday to get some plat armored dude to level ur unit ur wrong lol.
just use iron & bronze unit u get from quest as exp fodder, do commisionary quest on map u have been.
and if u read the guide, they do mention to not use Plat Armor to level ur low level unit. Plat armor usually used to max lv40+ unit so u can save more gold.
Return to Ruins are pretty ez if ur team lv30+

see my team on http://harem-battle.club/millennium-...2595-help.html

and just some friendly advice. if u really GOT bored easily. ur not fit to play a grinding game bro.

It takes no more than a month to take your team into CC levels from what I remember. And frankly, leveling 30-50 costs pittance compared to trying to raise CC56+ units higher, so don't worry much.)
And until you have G-tier Gold daily on farm, Platinum Armors are a bit too rare to use them on your level 30 units. Bridging 40-50, sure, getting your healers / archers / mages Class Evolved help a lot on low levels (just don't forget to serve them with three spirits of rarity matching to unit you are trying to raise).
Frankly, you have quite a lineup. Gold archer that is arguably on par with platinums, best gold mage, a freakin Princess and very durable one at that and one beast of a woman with most likely highest dps platinum units can hope to achieve (versus soft targets).
And Sophie, who is simply a monster, even on low levels. Seriously, you can just drop her ahead of your most troublesome foe(s) and pop her skill seconds after to turn her into a unholy rape machine to grind them to dust. Granted, she really blooms with skill levels (as she is dependent on it to be active), Class Evolution and, as everybody, affection, but still, she is quite a catch. And her disengage when skill ends can actually save her behind should you let her take on too much enemies and leave her too banged up) And even in inactive state, she is excellent lightning rod to make ranged enemies waste their attacks on, saving your squishier units from the fire (If you weren't aware before, ranged enemies target last placed unit in their range (unless tanked, then to tank their attention goes), so you can place your lightning rod last and they all will focus their fire on her ignoring your other units.) Team-wide regen is a cherry on the top.
For now, get Katie and Cloris (it is important, especially Katie, she's the best soldier you can get for free now and is quite a defensible), bring your team up to ~25 (Pastoral Gate works) and take Return to Ruins to Commission Sortie. You will do most of your to-50 leveling here, until you reach Fiery Oasis and then Base Scramble II. Actually, make reaching these two maps your priority, beelining to Oasis as soon as Desert maps are unlocked, evens 1* skipping Castle Retake and everything in-between and ignoring last Kingdom maps for awhile.
And if you are really desperate, you may buy a full set of Shrine Blessings and power through maps to the best grinding spots (but I would recommend to raise your army normal way more first).


Novice One appears to have a reasonable low-level play-through on a cursory glance. "A non-billing Prince's Aigis" also does an extreme low level playthrough... Maybe that channels will help you, as Eth Eternal did) .

Aigis is grindy as its finest at first 2 months, then you slowly start enjoying real gameplay, while still grind&level your team a bit but i sense you'll get tired (not bored, obviously) easily from this type of grind considering the things you write here. Pvp games have that type of no-grind just play type of gameplay, other than that dont expect to take on a G maps with full silver-gold half-cced team. Anyway good luck with that.

Btw, how come you claiming you've been playing for "years" (lol) and your max levelled unit is at 30lv?

ZeroZet really nailed your best draws, as well as the key points of leveling. Only things I might add are Remnant Vanquish 3 is inferior to RtR for unit leveling but is better for Prince leveling (to raise max charisma) and doesn't hurt your gold as much.

Once you've snagged Katie and Cloris from those special missions, I'd suggest leveling:

Katie > Claire > Alissa/Iris > Bernice > Mehlis/Elizabeth > Lilia/Kerry > Leanne > Sophie

Reasoning:
Katie: Excellent early blocker, and a UP generator. Unless you pull Zenobia or Jerome, no reason not to get her up.
Claire: Archers are great for early game damage and one of the core classes (along with Healers and tanks)
Alissa/Iris: cheaper vs. stronger, but healers are a must, so get these two up. Camilla is great if you manage to pull her.
Bernice: The last of the 3 core roles, Bernice is one of the best tanks in the game (and the most durable gold in the game against physical damage), get some levels on her and she will serve you well
Mehlis/Elizabeth: Liz is insane against lightly armored units and moderately low UP cost, Mehlis is the best gold mage and in the absence of plat+ mages will be your go-to source of late game magic damage
Lilia/Kerry: You'll need duelists down the road. Kerry is cheaper and can be a UP ramp (each killing blow gives 1 UP and she gives more UP back upon withdrawal than normal), Lilia is extremely tough (she's the defensive plat princess, while Sherry is the offensive one) and slices up armored enemies like butter since her attacks are magical; one downside is Princesses are fairly expensive deploys
Leanne: Secondary tank is good to have, and in the absence of samurai, dark knights or advance guards, Leanne fills the role well enough
Sophie: 3 reasons she's so low on the priority: blacks are expensive to raise down the road, and she doesn't need very many levels to be a wrecking ball and super lightning rod. 3rd reason is it's cheaper to feed rainbows to lower levels and she's a prime target for your rainbows since her skill level determines how much blocking she'll do.

Others, feel free to offer your own counter-arguments for this leveling priority list.

Oh and I assume you know not to use silvers for CR/SU since you'll need them for CC and AW

Originally Posted by LZS

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I don't have an issue with games that require a grind. What I DO have an issue with (and what I did mention) was that I do not care for games that require a heavy grind with little pay off or entertainment until you manage to finally get to the end.

Originally Posted by ZeroZet

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I do apologize if I came across as rather snippy in this thread. I was really tired of blowing all my charisma on Return to Ruins without a thing to show for it. I never really thought about using a unit as a "lightning rod" for more vulnerable ranged units, nor did I know that ranged enemies will target whatever you dropped down last. That'll certainly save me a headache with those damn mages on Return to Ruins. I'll have to kind of mess around with this, as most of my units are ~30 and I still cannot pass the thing despite all the guides I've been following. Now, if only my Lilia could actually do something useful against the armors in that map... I know her attacks ignore defense but she still can't take on a black knight and kill him before more appear to ruin her day.

Sophie is love, Sophie is life. Don't underestimate her healing on current content, especially if you lack a feng shui user. Her regeneration doesn't sound like much on paper, but across multiple units it adds up quickly and more importantly it smooths out your healing distribution--in Aigis War units often die because Priests have relatively slow healing intervals and they struggle to cycle through multiple targets. With Sophie out there soaking lich bolts and sponging away minor bruises it becomes a lot easier to keep your primary healer focused on the biggest problem. Now that my team is relatively mature Sophie and Iris are often the only sources of healing I regularly deploy because 36 health per second and Iris's AW ability tames most of the AOE damage I run across and running an extra dps instead of more healers means that I don't have to tank heavy hitters nearly as long.

Originally Posted by Tinkermane

I don't have an issue with games that require a grind. What I DO have an issue with (and what I did mention) was that I do not care for games that require a heavy grind with little pay off or entertainment until you manage to finally get to the end.





I do apologize if I came across as rather snippy in this thread. I was really tired of blowing all my charisma on Return to Ruins without a thing to show for it. I never really thought about using a unit as a "lightning rod" for more vulnerable ranged units, nor did I know that ranged enemies will target whatever you dropped down last. That'll certainly save me a headache with those damn mages on Return to Ruins. I'll have to kind of mess around with this, as most of my units are ~30 and I still cannot pass the thing despite all the guides I've been following. Now, if only my Lilia could actually do something useful against the armors in that map... I know her attacks ignore defense but she still can't take on a black knight and kill him before more appear to ruin her day.

Aigis is grind. Once ure at the spot where i am... well. I level units to level 50cc56 (that means 50 levels class evolution and then 56 levels again) with just iron and bronze fodder. Just playing every day and farming every day and reading guides etc. will result in long term that your going to get through smooth until u know enough to work stuff out for yourself. When you start the game the fodder u get from your maps are not giving as much exp then the end ones, ull have to stop a while and stop wasting ur stamina on useless attemps on maps that way back in the past where even hard to beat with full cc50 teams when ur team is just lvl 10-30. Rather focus on grinding a little.
I dont mean this mean but thats pretty darn low. Either pass up the game or get your teeth together and do it. Aigis is a game you play for years, if youd only need 30 days to max your units as a beginner the game would hardly be going anywhere. This is not a game you play to fufill your desire to game, at least for me its a side dish that i find to be to my taste and likes.

Let me tell you "...as most of my units are ~30 and I still cannot pass the thing despite all the guides I've been following." You can level your unit (depending on rarity) from silver 100 levels (50cc50) to blacks 229 levels (50cc80AW99). So yeah level 30 is nothing, so sure u wont beat the first "boss map/Brickwall" in the game with it. It will take you some time to farm, level units, level your prince and get more charisma to get more fodder to level more and attempt event maps. Im level 181 with 408 Charisma, of course yours is ways lower but its going to get up there. Starting the game for the first 20 days it can actualy help to get 1.2* exp for 3SC from the shop to get to prince level 100 as you can easily level up until level 100 like once a day and then just use all charisma again and be nearly up to the next level up again until hitting prince lvl 100 and from there on u have a good base already (20 days are roughly enough to get from prince 1-100 like that).

Originally Posted by Nero010

Aigis is grind. Once ure at the spot where i am... well. I level units to level 50cc56 (that means 50 levels class evolution and then 56 levels again) with just iron and bronze fodder. Just playing every day and farming every day and reading guides etc. will result in long term that your going to get through smooth until u know enough to work stuff out for yourself. When you start the game the fodder u get from your maps are not giving as much exp then the end ones, ull have to stop a while and stop wasting ur stamina on useless attemps on maps that way back in the past where even hard to beat with full cc50 teams when ur team is just lvl 10-30. Rather focus on grinding a little.
I dont mean this mean but thats pretty darn low. Either pass up the game or get your teeth together and do it. Aigis is a game you play for years, if youd only need 30 days to max your units as a beginner the game would hardly be going anywhere. This is not a game you play to fufill your desire to game, at least for me its a side dish that i find to be to my taste and likes.

Let me tell you "...as most of my units are ~30 and I still cannot pass the thing despite all the guides I've been following." You can level your unit (depending on rarity) from silver 100 levels (50cc50) to blacks 229 levels (50cc80AW99). So yeah level 30 is nothing, so sure u wont beat the first "boss map/Brickwall" in the game with it. It will take you some time to farm, level units, level your prince and get more charisma to get more fodder to level more and attempt event maps. Im level 181 with 408 Charisma, of course yours is ways lower but its going to get up there. Starting the game for the first 20 days it can actualy help to get 1.2* exp for 3SC from the shop to get to prince level 100 as you can easily level up until level 100 like once a day and then just use all charisma again and be nearly up to the next level up again until hitting prince lvl 100 and from there on u have a good base already (20 days are roughly enough to get from prince 1-100 like that).

Why cc56 btw? Sounds too expensive. Plat units need levelled to max cc50, after then use tin-cans+spirits. Its cc46 or cc54 for gold units.